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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:03 PM
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A Pulitzer awaits the reporter who unravels the Warren Co.Lockdown
A year after the Warren County, Ohio "terror lockdown", and after admissions by county administrators that a mysterious figure was impersonating a federal officer for weeks before the election, our friends in the Fourth Estate--who would pitch a hissy fit if a Township Board of Trustees tried to meet behind closed doors-- have resolved not to examine this malodorous event.

This admittedly bogus cover story is so riddled with holes that, were it a Hollywood screenplay, it would be laughed off for being far too contrived. But believe it, it happened.

http://www.cincinnati.com/text/local/2004/11/10/loc_war ...

LEBANON - Warren County officials, facing scrutiny of their decision to lock down the administration building on election night, say they were responding to a terrorist threat that ranked a "10" on a scale of 1 to 10.<snip>

County officials initially said they feared that having reporters and photographers present could interfere with the ballot counting. They subsequently cited homeland security concerns.<snip>

Young said he recommended the security precautions after getting information from an FBI agent during a conversation about general Election Day threats. Young refused to identify the agent Tuesday.
<snip>
Officials at the FBI, which oversees anti-terrorism activities in southern Ohio, said they received no information about a terror threat in Warren County."The FBI did not notify anyone in Warren County of any specific terrorist threat to Warren County before Election Day," FBI spokesman Michael Brooks said.
<snip>

Yet, inexplicably, it has never been seriously investigated by any independent news organizations (The Cincinnati Enquirer--staunchly pro-Bush- actually had their reporter kicked out, but declined to seriously pursue the story). For obvious reasons, Ken Blackwell has seen to it that there has never been an Ohio investigation. And although a federal felony has clearly been committed-- Impersonating a Federal Officer, a violation of 18 USC Section 912-- no Federal investigation appears to have been initiated. Golly...go figure!

Something that removes this event from the realm of a local Keystone Kops routine and defines it as a conspiracy, is the irrepressible fact that, while the "terror alert" was an excuse trotted out on election day, the lockdown itself had been planned in advance:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200 ...

E-mails released Monday show lockdown pre-planned

By Erica Solvig
Enquirer staff writer

<snip>
The final tally showed that President Bush carried the Republican-dominated county with 72.1 percent of the vote.

Warren County has drawn national attention for its election night problems, from three-hour-plus lines at the polls to locking down the administration building during the vote count because of terrorism concerns.

County Commissioner Pat South has said the decision to lock the doors election night was made during an Oct. 28 closed-door meeting (the Thursday before Election Day). But in e-mailed memos dated Oct. 25 and Oct. 26 - released Monday after an Enquirer public records request - other county officials were already detailing the security measures, down to the wording of signs that would be posted on the locked doors
<snip>

These GOP officials were DETERMINED to count the votes in private. The "terror alert"-- bald faced lie that it was-- was simply the most convenient cover story for justifying that end.

Thus far, everyone seems content to give these staunchly Republican public officials the benefit of the doubt,or, sadly, to write off their machinations as not having been sufficient to sway the election. Indeed (we are told) Bush WON THE STATE BY 116,000 votes! This strained justification for the felonious conduct assumes that only Warren county's 93,000 ballots were in play.

Not so fast.

Other than deranged psychopathy, there would be no reason to exclude disinterested persons from the vote count in Warren County IF ONE WAS ONLY COUNTING THE WARREN COUNTY BALLOTS. Warren County is arguably the strongest Republican county in Ohio, and the county went comfortably for Bush.

But what if they used the lockdown to access the state central tabulator?

Curiously the new GAO report reveals that Ohio's statewide tabulation network was highly vulnerable to hacking, owing to lack of any meaningful safeguards:

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1529

<snip>
The GAO also confirms that access to the voting network was easily compromised because not all digital recording electronic voting systems (DREs) had supervisory functions password-protected, so access to one machine provided access to the whole network. This critical finding confirms that rigging the 2004 vote did not require a "widespread conspiracy" but rather the cooperation of a very small number of operatives with the power to tap into the networked machines and thus change large numbers of votes at will. With 800,000 votes cast on electronic machines in Ohio, flipping the number needed to give Bush 118,775 could be easily done by just one programmer.

Access to the voting network was also compromised by repeated use of the same user IDs combined with easily guessed passwords. So even relatively amateur hackers could have gained access to and altered the Ohio vote tallies.
<snip>

Tucked inside of the bowels of the Warren County Administration building in Lebanon, Ohio, and away from the prying eyes of reporters and observers, one person with even mediocre computer skills could have accessed the incoming Ohio results ...and brought an end to our democracy.

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:09 PM
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1. Recommended NT
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JJackFlash Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:22 PM
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2. As soon as I heard about the terra alert on election day
I said, "Oh, shit"
cause I knew the repugnicans were busy thieving another election.
How much more of this shit are we going to take?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:26 PM
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3. I wonder if the pulitzer still holds the appeal it once did
for journalists. Or an even better question would be where are the good journalists?
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:37 PM
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4. election monitors?
i thoought i read somewhere that there were 6 election monitors in the room where the counting was... 3 rethugs, 3 dems....i think i even recall a thread on DU where the person actually claimed to have been there (one of the dems)... but maybe i'm thinking of a blog or article, this stuff blends into each other occasionally... anyway, this person said the counting seemed legit...

as for me, i just plain KNOW they hijacked the process... i can feel it in my bones...
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:54 PM
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5. The ballots were in one room...
The computer access was in another.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 03:14 PM
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31. They were not election monitors they were county BoE employees
The Kerry lawyer was finally allowed in, but he had to split his time between 2 rooms.

BoE employees have jobs that pay the bills. Can we really expect them to jeopardize their paychecks?

Tabulation fraud is invisble. Computer illiterate BoE employees can not be expected to recognize it.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:26 PM
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6. Thank you for that comprehensive look at a serious story that awaits
a serious look.

I want answers.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:37 PM
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7. Don't hold your breath...courage is a scarce commodity in journalism.
...today.

eom
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:44 PM
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9. Lately, I'm counting on ambition instead of courage, because the
Vulcan Neck Pinch put on this nation after 9/11 seems to me to be wearing off, along with the Rovian stranglehold on "what people should say". I feel that as the press undergoes its thawing process, it will start to gravitate once again to the big stories of how power is misused and channeled against the regular citizen.

The legal system sometimes is glacial in its speed. Public opinion, which the suppression of an independent press has been based on through the extreme castigation of dissent, has shifted like the glacier, and man that glacier isn't fast, but it's really, really heavy.

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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 07:51 AM
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15. Heavy. n/t
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:40 PM
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8. The refusal to even HAVE AN INVESTIGATION
is the scariest part of all. We KNOW something went wrong. The GAO report even said so. But WHERE is the FULL and THOROUGH investigation? Why is the media silent? Why are the Democrats silent? You know, I'm beginning to think we're screwed. :scared:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:47 PM
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10. Yes, we're screwed. But we're less screwed than we were, because
the burning, the chafing, and the itching of the unanswered questions keeps getting worse in the sense that it gets attention despite the edict that the press and the people were to move on.

In other words, make noise. Keep making noise. Never give up.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 02:42 AM
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11. The info at your first 2 links is gone?
Hope you saved or have other sources for it.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 07:34 AM
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14. I wonder if the articles are on lock down.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 01:14 PM
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28. You have to ppay for the articles - they are still there..
Edited on Sun Nov-06-05 01:18 PM by dutchdemocrat
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 08:13 AM
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16. Better yet...here's an Amy Goodman interview from the time...
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 03:19 PM
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32. I have the URL, you just have to know how to get to the front page
for that date.

Go to http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/10/

and just change the dates for whatever day you want to access.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/10/loc_warrenvote10.html

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 03:33 AM
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12. You're right. And the same people helped screw Hackett.
The same people in Clermont were there to screw Hackett. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0508/S00186.htm

Those folks were rude beyond belief and blew any notion of a random recount. And they were there to stop the Hacket vote count with a bogus humidity crisis, just in time to let Schmid get one of those great Repubican 51-48 victories. Total nonsense.

But you're right, Warren is particularly interesting because the FBI was right there to say, sorry folks, but no dice.

Either these people are barking mad or they told one of the great lies of all time electioin fraud history. I'll bet on the latter.

Excellent post!!!!! RECOMMENDED
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 08:28 AM
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18. I canvassed for Hackett in Warren Co.
I was so mad on election day when that tabulater went down (we were later told due to 'humidity'). Give me a friggin' break-- it's always humid in so. Ohio in the summer.

Yard signs were 9-1 in favor of Hackett.

Cheaters and criminals are counting our votes. Now in Montgomery Co. we are going to have to use Diebold machines.

:(
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 11:52 AM
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25. Take a look at this...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0508/S00186.htm

We pushed this hard out there and nobody would bite. Spread it around. This may be a bit mild as per what actually happened but it was written right after the election.

Don't give up, screw these people. Hackett is a lot smarter now and he'll win Senate by a big margin. I'm sure they'll cheat but there are so many people out there in OH like you who have a full awareness.

Besites, I think the drip, drip,drip of investigations is going to pop something on the fraud story. Petro and Blackwell are really turning on each other. What a shame;)
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 07:28 AM
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13. Both the links say page is no longer available!!!!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 11:22 AM
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21. The second one works for me. I'll search for the first.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 11:25 AM
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23. Here is the first one.
http://www.cincinnati.com/text/local/2004/11/10/loc_warrenvote10.html

Wednesday, November 10, 2004

Warren Co. defends lockdown decision
FBI denies warning officials of any special threat


By Erica Solvig and Dan Horn
Enquirer staff writers


LEBANON - Warren County officials, facing scrutiny of their decision to lock down the administration building on election night, say they were responding to a terrorist threat that ranked a "10" on a scale of 1 to 10.

The information, which Commissioner Pat South said was previously deemed confidential, is coming out a week after the public was barred from viewing the Warren County vote count. The Ohio Secretary of State's office doesn't know of any other county in the state to impose such a restriction.

County officials initially said they feared that having reporters and photographers present could interfere with the ballot counting. They subsequently cited homeland security concerns.

Now, they say an FBI agent told them that Warren County ranked a "10" on a terrorism scale. However, state and federal homeland security officials said Tuesday they were unaware of any specific threat against the county.

County officials locked down the administration building on Justice Drive after the polls there had closed. Officials say having both a polling place and the board of elections in one location increased security concerns.

More at link above.
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 03:35 PM
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35. Corrected 2nd link (news.enquirer.com)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 08:25 AM
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17. Bush got 70% in 2000
I would have picked a different county to steal votes in, if it were me.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:17 AM
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19. The key to the truth lies in Lucas county. Why? Because the Noes will be
under oath and 5 of the Republican OH supreme court Justices have recused themselves. Here is my info on Lucas (which I keep posting in hopes that MSM will pick it up and do some serious investigation on the theft:

By the early nineties, Tom W. Noe had a net worth of 2.4 million dollars and his coin business had sales over $6.4 million. Then the Blade reports:

By 1992, a year after his business had suffered what he called “a huge loss,” he figured he was more than $16,500 in debt.
As Mr. Noe tried to support a lifestyle that didn’t match his income, the financial strain was crushing
“I was liquidating assets as quickly as I could to appease banks so they wouldn’t foreclose on myself and my business,” he testified during divorce proceedings.

Despite the tough times, he continued to find money to give to politicians and others.
In 1991 and 1992 combined, court records show, Mr. Noe sent $29,200 to GOP politicians or the Republican Party and nearly $11,000 to charities.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050515/NEWS24/505150404/0/NEWS10

Tom Noe is under federal investigation regarding the loss of $ 12 million rare coins from the $ 50 million dollar investment by the Ohio Bureau of Workmens Comp (BWC).Bernadette Noe and Tom Noe both have links to the Lucas County BOE. Ms Noe was Chairperson of the Lucas County BOE during the past election. I hope you have taken the time to read the SOS's Investigation of Lucas county following the election:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/elections/lucas.htm


This report includes the fact that REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed UNSUPERVISED ACCESS to UNSECURED BALLOTS prior to the election, as well as this list:

*failure to maintain ballot security
*Inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation .
*failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received.
*issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms.
*manipulation of the process involving the 3% recount.
*disjointed implementation of the Directive regarding the removal of Nader and Camejo from the ballot .
*failure to properly issue hospital ballots in accordance with statutory requirements.
*failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvass
*failure to examine campaign finance reports in a timely manner.
*failure to guard and protect public documents.
*failure to guard and protect public documents ....etc.


-One-half of the ballots printed and used in the 2004 general election in Lucas county were stored in an open space on the fhird floor of the county warehouse with no security measures in place.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation on Lucas County BOE page 4



-Live ballots were delivered to polling locations a week in advance of the election. Although the ballots were retrieved, one board employee who was assigned to the warehouse informed the SOS staff that he did not believe all the ballots were successfully retrieved.
SOURCE; SOS Investigation, page 5



-Lucas County BOE failed to record or retrieve ballot stub numbers of absentee voters’ ballots as required by statute OH Revised Code 3505.23. It was reported by an elector that her mother had received not one, but three absentee voter ballots. there was no way to determine if similar incidents occurred and if so how many.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, page 7




-October 4, 2004 was filing deadline for new voter registrations. At that point there were approximately 20,000 unprocessed voter registration applications with less than a month before the election. One mail tray containing 4,500-7,000 (estimates vary) unprocessed “Project Voter” registrations were discovered on or about October 18,2004.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 10

***Of interest here is information obtained from the SOS website entitled ElectionsVoter/results 2003 and 2004 which show the # of registered voters number change from ‘03-’04 was 11,947 in Lucas County: reg voters 2003 in Lucas=288,190 ; registered voter in 2004=300,137.



-In late September or early October an employee of the Ohio Republican Party contacted Sam Thurber (*involved with politician wife Maggie Thurber in Noe scandal.) wanting to inspect and have copies made of all recently returned voter registrations, Ohio Republican Party offered to furnish volunteers to assist with copying postcards. No one at the Lucas County BOE can confirm that anyone was assigned to supervise Republican volunteers. On their second day of copying, a BOE employee, Jennifer Bernath, Democratic Booth Official) saw republican party volunteers peeling off the yellow return stickers applied by the post office. (Violation of RC 149.43 (B) (I) , and agruably a violation of 149.351.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, pgs 18-19

*Among those whose donations have caught the attention of investigators are:

City Councilman Betty Shultz; former state representative Sally Perz, her husband, Joe, and her daughter, Allison; former county elections director Joe Kidd; county Auditor Larry Kaczala and his wife, Gina; County Commissioner Maggie Thurber and her husband, Sam; and two of Mr. Noe’s co-workers at Vintage Coins and Collectibles, partner Tim Lapointe and executive assistant Susan Metzger. Mr. Lapointe’s wife, Linda, also donated.

All of the above gave the campaign $2,000 except the Thurbers; each of them gave $1,950 to the campaign. The $23,900 in donations were made between Oct. 30 and Nov. 5, 2003.

Path of donations At issue is whether Mr. Noe gave people money in order for them to give to the Bush campaign, allowing Mr. Noe to exceed federal spending limits, law-enforcement sources said.
Source:
Toledo Blade - FBI Raids GOP Donor Noe's Condo
Friday, April 29, 2005




-The Swanton 3 poll book turned up missing and has never been recovered.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 16


-The number of precincts in Lucas County for the November 2003 election was 530 precincts, at the time of the November 2, 2004 election there were 495 precincts.


Tom W. Noe served as the Chairman of the Lucas County Republican Party from 1992-1995 as well as on the board of the Lucas County Board of Election from 1993-2003. He was also appointed to the Ohio Board of regents in 1995.

http://www.regents.state.oh.us/people/noe.html


(Although he did not possess a college degree, in fact he dropped out in his first year of college)



It was during his tenure on the BOE that Diebold machines were brought into Lucas County.

"TOLEDO, Ohio, May 10, 2002 ¯ Just about every county in the nation is rushing to update their voting technology, but no county to date has done it faster than Lucas County."
<snip>
"Lucas County Board of Elections Acting Chairman Tom Noe, who was present to observe the May 7th election, was pleased with the outcome. "I don't think there is another county in the nation that has implemented touch screen voting as quickly as Lucas County did for this trial run in a primary election," Noe said. "The people of Lucas County and of Ohio in general can be proud of this achievement.""
http://www.sequoiavote.com/mediadetail.php?id=57

http://www.diebold.com/news/newsdisp.asp?id=2997

Also Mr. Noe intervened with Blackwell in a court case:

Thomas W. Noe files to intervene in Democrat court Case v. BlackwellEdited on Fri May-27-05 05:57 PM by phoebe
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/docs/sandusky/doc5...

Also, please be aware of this information on Democratic Underground, which includes many interesting links:

</www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=371800&mesg_id=371800>

There were so many problems concerning the election in Lucas County, including with the Diebold machines. Here is a report from an observer of the re-count in Lucas County:

December 22, 2004
 
Report from Recount Observer, Lucas County, Ohio
Emailed report from Lucas County, Ohio, Recount Observer:

i was a witness for the testing of the optiscan machines on tuesday the 14th.

what is puzzling to me, after the tests of the scanners were finished, the witnesses were not allowed to compare the hand count results to the printed results from the scanners. the ballots, the hand count sheets and the printed tapes were all taken away, to another room, out of sight of any witnesses and about 40 minutes later, the director comes out and tells us everything checks out.

we go to lunch and when we come back, we find ourselves waiting in the lobby. why? we were waiting for diebold to reprogram the scanners. what? didn't they just verify that everything was on the up and up? what is the need to reprogram the scanners?

also, during the testing process, one precinct, sylvania 3, continuously had the test ballots spit back out at least 3 times for approximatley 50% of them. during the election, how many times did this occur and what poll worker is going to stand there and continuosly feed the scanner to get it to scan 1 ballot? therefore, how many of the ballots were put in the spoiled pile that were really not spoiled?

another thing that was very interesting was the two people that i was witnessing actually did not know how to run the scanner. are they the type of people that were the normal who were overseeing the election? am i crazy? what is wrong with this picture?

after witnessing the fiasco of a test recount being conducted at the lucas county government center, i am definitely for scrapping this election and having a re- vote. there isn't any other way we are going to get a legitimate election.

Please also visit "Ohio Election 2004" athttp://ohioelection2004.com.

It was during his tenure on the BOE that Diebold machines were brought into Lucas County.

"TOLEDO, Ohio, May 10, 2002 ¯ Just about every county in the nation is rushing to update their voting technology, but no county to date has done it faster than Lucas County."
<snip>
"Lucas County Board of Elections Acting Chairman Tom Noe, who was present to observe the May 7th election, was pleased with the outcome. "I don't think there is another county in the nation that has implemented touch screen voting as quickly as Lucas County did for this trial run in a primary election," Noe said. "The people of Lucas County and of Ohio in general can be proud of this achievement.""
http://www.sequoiavote.com/mediadetail.php?id=57

http://www.diebold.com/news/newsdisp.asp?id=2997


RIGGING THE VOTE IN LUCAS COUNTY

Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
Revised December 24, 2004

-snip-

The very first thing we all noticed when examining the precinct
canvass records for Lucas County was the distribution of turnout.
The range is striking, and turnout is distinctly higher in the
Bush precincts than in the Kerry precincts. In some precincts
the reported turnout is too high to be credible.


PRECINCTS WITH HIGHEST TURNOUT, TOLEDO SUBURBS

Precinct Turnout Bush Kerry

MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 10 92.67 217 161
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 11 92.46 424 298
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP J 91.97 84 40
OREGON 16 89.46 186 210
MAUMEE 18 89.44 205 190
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 7 87.78 285 151
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 9 87.58 195 78
RICHFIELD TOWNSHIP 2 86.76 105 83
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP K 86.74 338 177
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP I 86.48 270 184
SPRINGFIELD TOWNSHIP 25 86.17 230 116
OREGON 5 86.09 382 390
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 5 85.96 365 181
MAUMEE 12 85.48 197 262
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 7 85.36 328 189
OREGON 15 85.23 189 287
YLVANIA CITY 18 85.05 434 214
SPRINGFIELD TOWNSHIP 9 84.98 297 147
SYLVANIA CITY 10 84.87 254 157
SYLVANIA CITY 21 84.87 516 295
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP H 84.85 211 122
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 3 84.56 356 304
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 6 84.48 293 183
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 9 84.31 542 260
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP CC 84.21 262 194


Turnout above 90% is almost unheard of. I have examined the
canvass records in eight other Ohio counties and have seen
reported turnout above 90% only in two precincts in Miami County
where, in my professional opinion, the election was hacked.
Miami and Lucas counties are also the only two counties whose
records I have examined that used optical scanning machines, as
confirmed by the map posted at

verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&state=Ohio



Altogether there were 63 precincts in Toledo with less than 60%
reported turnout. All of them were won overwhelmingly by John
Kerry. The vote in the aggregate was 19,353 to 4,247, more than
4.5 to 1. But look at the distribution, or more precisely, the
concentration. Of the 8 precincts with less than 50% reported
turnout, 4 are located in 2 wards. Of the 29 precincts with less
than 55% reported turnout, 20 are located in 4 wards, and 24 are
located in 6 wards. Of the 63 precincts with less than 60%
reported turnout, 34 are located in 4 wards, 39 are located in
5 wards, and 43 are located in 6 wards.




TOLEDO PRECINCTS WITH LOWEST REPORTED TURNOUT

Precinct Turnout Bush Kerry

TOLEDO 8-I 39.18 100 328
TOLEDO 18-C 44.01 28 280
TOLEDO 2-D 46.18 50 388
TOLEDO 2-A 47.40 68 275
TOLEDO 8-J 47.50 48 315
TOLEDO 19-C 49.07 117 404
TOLEDO 24-B 49.41 142 191
TOLEDO 2-I 49.91 28 237
TOLEDO 19-D 50.35 45 167
TOLEDO 17-I 50.63 78 283
TOLEDO 2-H 51.47 57 335
TOLEDO 2-G 51.63 59 346
TOLEDO 2-F 52.24 28 294
TOLEDO 18-B 52.32 47 196
TOLEDO 17-C 52.53 34 171
TOLEDO 15-J 52.61 80 271
TOLEDO 4-N 52.69 52 396
TOLEDO 7-B 52.85 72 367
TOLEDO 17-J 53.15 110 343
TOLEDO 17-F 53.46 111 475
TOLEDO 2-C 53.47 70 236
TOLEDO 15-A 53.92 84 209
TOLEDO 8-M 53.98 31 125
TOLEDO 17-H 54.22 89 286
TOLEDO 10-A 54.41 52 424
TOLEDO 6-K 54.48 20 124
TOLEDO 19-B 54.57 101 251
TOLEDO 8-F 54.65 11 222
TOLEDO 19-A 54.89 77 294
TOLEDO 24-D 55.12 206 283
TOLEDO 17-D 55.14 48 145
TOLEDO 14-F 55.42 8 216
TOLEDO 24-E 55.73 112 191
TOLEDO 19-F 55.82 91 230
TOLEDO 18-A 56.22 75 266
TOLEDO 19-E 56.25 55 188
TOLEDO 8-H 56.47 17 221
TOLEDO 6-M 56.51 77 252
TOLEDO 8-C 56.57 9 417
TOLEDO 12-E 56.81 144 291
TOLEDO 17-G 56.87 103 370
TOLEDO 19-H 56.91 75 237
TOLEDO 3-I 57.07 86 253
TOLEDO 4-E 57.14 37 254
TOLEDO 8-K 57.32 33 611
TOLEDO 20-A 57.48 62 292
TOLEDO 14-E 57.77 11 411
TOLEDO 8-L 58.02 20 515
TOLEDO 17-E 58.02 23 70
TOLEDO 8-G 58.29 13 320
TOLEDO 18-G 58.67 80 237
TOLEDO 4-H 58.75 24 278
TOLEDO 13-E 58.78 13 401
TOLEDO 6-F 58.81 167 242
TOLEDO 4-C 59.23 74 380
TOLEDO 18-I 59.56 58 261
TOLEDO 2-B 59.64 60 430
TOLEDO 10-G 59.68 9 289
TOLEDO 19-G 59.70 135 340
TOLEDO 20-I 59.78 34 127
TOLEDO 13-G 59.83 18 259
TOLEDO 13-A 59.84 11 207
TOLEDO 3-C 59.94 82 308


Altogether there were 63 precincts in Toledo with less than 60%
reported turnout. All of them were won overwhelmingly by John
Kerry. The vote in the aggregate was 19,353 to 4,247, more than
4.5 to 1. But look at the distribution, or more precisely, the
concentration. Of the 8 precincts with less than 50% reported
turnout, 4 are located in 2 wards. Of the 29 precincts with less
than 55% reported turnout, 20 are located in 4 wards, and 24 are
located in 6 wards. Of the 63 precincts with less than 60%
reported turnout, 34 are located in 4 wards, 39 are located in
5 wards, and 43 are located in 6 wards.

/web.northnet.org/minstrel/toledo.htm
http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/toledo.htm

Lucas County Democratic headquarters burglarized


A Toledo police officer leaves the scene of a burglary at Democratic Headquarters in Toledo today.
( THE BLADE/LORI KING )



The Lucas County Democratic Headquarters was burglarized overnight, and three computers, including the party’s main system, were stolen.
The computers contained highly sensitive information, including the party’s financial information, names and personal phone numbers of hundreds of party members, candidates, and volunteers.
The computers also stored e-mails from candidates that included discussion about campaign strategy.

A second computer, belonging to an attorney-volunteer working to ensure voters’ rights, also was taken, officials said. The headquarters on 1817 Madison Avenue does have an alarm system that volunteers believed they set late Monday when they left.
However, it apparently wasn’t tripped during the night. Workers arriving about 7:30 a.m. yesterday noticed the back window had been shattered and called police.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041012/NEWS03/41012016




December 22, 2004
 
Report from Recount Observer, Lucas County, Ohio
Emailed report from Lucas County, Ohio, Recount Observer:

i was a witness for the testing of the optiscan machines on tuesday the 14th.

what is puzzling to me, after the tests of the scanners were finished, the witnesses were not allowed to compare the hand count results to the printed results from the scanners. the ballots, the hand count sheets and the printed tapes were all taken away, to another room, out of sight of any witnesses and about 40 minutes later, the director comes out and tells us everything checks out.

we go to lunch and when we come back, we find ourselves waiting in the lobby. why? we were waiting for diebold to reprogram the scanners. what? didn't they just verify that everything was on the up and up? what is the need to reprogram the scanners?

also, during the testing process, one precinct, sylvania 3, continuously had the test ballots spit back out at least 3 times for approximatley 50% of them. during the election, how many times did this occur and what poll worker is going to stand there and continuosly feed the scanner to get it to scan 1 ballot? therefore, how many of the ballots were put in the spoiled pile that were really not spoiled?

another thing that was very interesting was the two people that i was witnessing actually did not know how to run the scanner. are they the type of people that were the normal who were overseeing the election? am i crazy? what is wrong with this picture?

after witnessing the fiasco of a test recount being conducted at the lucas county government center, i am definitely for scrapping this election and having a re- vote. there isn't any other way we are going to get a legitimate election.

Please also visit "Ohio Election 2004" athttp://ohioelection2004.com.


Looking at the GEMS official results (from Lucas County BOE discs obtained through a public records request) I noticed a weird discrepancy:

First, Presidential results from Lucas:

Badnarik 294
bu$h 87,106 (39.56%)
Kerry 132,537 (60.19%)
Cobb 8
Schriner 2

TOTAL VOTES: 220,190 with 495 precinct in Lucas

Now.. there are 2 congressional districts in Lucas County: District 9 and District 5

Here are the results for DISTRICT 9 CONGRESSIONAL SEAT(which obviously includes Toledo):

Kaczala (R) 60,949
Kaptur (D) 145,998

TOTAL VOTES: 206,947 with 478 precincts

DISTRICT 5 CONGRESSIONAL SEAT:

Gillmor (R) 5,497
Weirsuch(D) 3,277

TOTAL VOTES: 8,774 with 17 precincts

********
Total Votes in the County for PRESIDENT=220,190
Total Votes for the county for CONGRESS=215,721

Now it is understandable that more people might vote for president while leaving a congress vote blank, but...

Total Dem Votes in County for President = 132,537 while
Total Dem Votes in County for Congress = 149,275

that equates to 16,738 more dem votes for congress than dem votes for president AND

Marcy KAPTUR IN DISTRICT 9 (WITH 478 PRECINCTS AND A TOTAL OF 206,947 POSSIBLE VOTES) HAD 13,461 MORE VOTES THAN KERRY!



WE NEED TO START IN LUCAS AND WATCH THE DOMINO EFFECT WORK!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 10:58 AM
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20. You'd think the FBI would be all over this case. Pull on the Warren county
thread and the whole stinking mess will start to unravel.
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 11:23 AM
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22. here's the 11/16/04 Cincinnati Enquirer link
typical punditomaniac denegation.
No Pulitzer for Erica Solvig!
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041116/NEWS01/411160355/1056/news01
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 03:22 PM
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33. Erica Solvig is no longer with the Enquirer, maybe some enterprising DUer
should see what she might be willing to talk about now? Hint, she's with the Desert Sun.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 11:32 AM
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24. a Pulitzer, a pink slip and a coffin n/t
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:05 PM
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26. Fake terror stuff like that ought to cause them to be impeached on its own
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 01:08 PM
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27. What happened in Warren County? What are they hiding? nm
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 02:29 PM
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29. What has always struck me about this is the Bush Administration's
frequent and favored ploy of having someone impersonate 'officials', then deny all knowledge of such impersonations. It's been used at Bush appearances around the country, polling places, and public building where votes are counted.
Funny, it was a ruse also used to clear out potential witnesses and to collect personal cameras, recordings etc.(potential evidence), at Dealy Plaza.
Just sayin'.....
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 02:30 PM
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30. If I didn't know better, it would seem we are living in the Dark Ages.
The modern Dark Ages. Where journalists scatter when the light turns on.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 03:34 PM
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34. You're not going to get it from the Enquirer. Maybe Dayton
Daily News, but not the Enquirer
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 05:10 PM
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41. Maybe the Toledo Blade could be influenced to investigate this
If Howard Wilkinson won't/can't bite, I don't know who else can in SW Ohio.
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BJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 04:00 PM
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36. So, Ohio Election Officials Had Detailed Knowledge...
of a 10 out of 10 certain specific "terrorist" threat at a specific building in middle America, on a specific day, for which nobody has been arrested or charged?????

Isn't this the same quality of specific intelligence that if the feds supposedly had it that and had advance knowledge of it that 9/11 could have been prevented?

And, if the threat wasn't quite as specific as claimed, say, that it wasn't directed at the admin building, or they had a date range instead of one day, or that it was directed at the city in general, why lock down just that one building on that one date?

Thanks for the post.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 04:19 PM
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37. A voter in that county needs to file a federal lawsuit...
against election officials for violating their civil rights. Get discovery going in this matter. Who in Warren County, Ohio is going to have the guts to do it? Call the ACLU...they might provide the attorney pro-bono.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 07:22 PM
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38. Yes, I agree. Don't we have someone at DU in that precint who will file?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 08:24 PM
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40. lizzieforkerry lives in Warren County
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 07:24 PM
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39. Paper Ballots NOW! Hand Counts NOW! IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!
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