The Team B Strategic Objective Panel of1975-76: Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Perle

People keep on asking for evidence that they did it, and i'm going to toss it right in front of you.

This all goes back to the Team B Strategic Objective Panel of 1975-76. http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=apr93cahn

The panel involved Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Perle and Cheney, and indirectly, Bush Sr.

In fact it was spearheaded by Cheney and Rumsfeld, and when the director of the CIA at the time (William Colby) saw it as complete garbage, they got him fired and replaced by George H.W. Bush.

They used a sketchy character with absolutely no facts to prove their assertations (Richard Pipes) just like they used Chalabi to prove their assertations this time. The assertations were based on zero evidence (that time being Soviet "radar-proof" submarines and this time being the generic "Weapons of Mass Destruction"). And, just like before, they got their wish (the military buildup of the 80s http://rightweb.irc-online.org/govt/team-b.php ) in this case, being the invasion of Iraq.

Criminals tend to use methods that have worked before.

Another article with much more detail on it:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/10/26/MNG62FDUGL1.DTL
Bush team sought to snuff CIA doubts over Iraq WMD

So, people, do not tell ANY of us that "this was just incompetency" or "bad intelligence".

If it was "just incompetency" or "bad intelligence" can you please explain this?

and here is some more from Thom Hartmann

Oh how we forget the past so quickly.........

How can we let them do the same thing to us over and over????


Explosive BBC Doc Exposes
Decades-Old Neocon Deceits
Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power
By Thom Hartmann
12-28-4

For those who prefer to read things online, an unofficial but complete transcript is here: http://www.silt3.com/index.php?id=573


What if there really was no need for much - or even most - of the Cold War?

What if, in fact, the Cold War had been kept alive for two decades based on phony WMD threats?

What if, similarly, the War On Terror was largely a scam, and the administration was hyping it to seem larger-than-life?

What if our "enemy" represented a real but relatively small threat posed by rogue and criminal groups well outside the mainstream of Islam?

What if that hype was done largely to enhance the power, electability, and stature of George W. Bush and Tony Blair?

And what if the world was to discover the most shocking dimensions of these twin deceits - that the same men promulgated them in the 1970s and today?

It happened.

The myth-shattering event took place in England the first three weeks of October, when the BBC aired a three-hour documentary written and produced by Adam Curtis, titled "The Power of Nightmares http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm


more....

I want to look at this later; this is the first I've heard of this. I knew they all knew - or knew of - each other back then, just had never seen much in the way of proof.

This is very interesting, another piece of the big puzzle.

and spent that money on making the world a better place, we wouldn't have to worry much about terrorism.

Instead, we spend billions on a phantom enemy that is mostly of our own invention.

There's a great book called Natural Capitalism that is a great start.

beginning of the cold war. If Congress and the American public were to know that the USSR was in complete disarray and not nearly as potent a fighting force as we were led to believe, why they might want to scale back the appropriations to our war machine. The Pentagon would have none of that.
It's been well documented that U.S. intelligence concerning the USSR was manipulated and even created to keep the money flowing into the Pentagon, whether there was a serious need for it or not.
The military industrial complex was and is so eager for those tax dollars that they'd create whatever intelligence necessary to back up their claims. The same is taking place at this very moment and will continue until someone can prove that they're lying. I imagine many of those "someones" have existed over the years and that they met with untimely "accidents" that kept the wraps on the Pentagon's deception. Anyone who thinks that our government isn't capable of killing those who would upset their apple cart is naive.
Imagine what those Trillions of dollars could have done to improve conditions here and abroad. It's staggering. We could in all probably be living in a utopia if not for our military's taste for largess.

...on you name it: on rational policymaking, on the real intelligence community, on everybody but them, etc.

Thanks for posting this.

... because of something on which I've been working, and have mentioned it briefly here and there over the last few months, but, in truth, most people did not notice--or didn't need any convincing. :)

This process really started with the Committee for the Present Danger, which was first organized in 1949-1950. Some members were influential with the Truman government, some with business, etc. They, I think, had much to say, informally, to the National Security Council in the writing of NSC-68, which became the defining document of security policy for decades to come. One of the recommendations of NSC-68 was to return military spending to wartime levels--three to four times what they should have in a time of nominal peace.

There's far too much to this to get into a brief post. So, I recommend reading the links. There's even more to it than what's in them, though. Much more.

Cheers.

is Richard Pipes' son.

If you want some quality paranoia -- look into the death of CIA man John Paisley (the Team A - Team B liason, the CIA's liason to Nixon's Plumbers (when he was at the Office of Security), allegedly a good friend of Yuri Nosenko (& as such having info about Oswald and the Kennedy assassination) & believed by James Jesus Angleton of being a KGB agent).