A question, Dems: Do you think that when Ohio's bizarre skewed results

are confirmed, do you think (Democratic) Congress will say "Hrm - maybe we ought to take this Diebold shit seriously - obviously, they ARE up to no good" and fight like hell to make changes before 2006, or 2008, or will they sit idly by while the theocracy becomes permanent and absolute? Because I am getting a little scared.

I have seen some projected outcomes from Ohio posted here, and it looks like the people over there are saying that large majorities are voting "NO" on voting by mail, and "NO" on a bipartisan election board?

This seems a little odd.

Voting by mail is easier and more convenient, and it stands to reason that most folks would agree that a bi-partisan election board seems fair. Why would so many vote against these things? It seems vote tampering is already afoot. Voting by mail and bi-partisan election boards might make election fraud a little harder to pull off - and the Pukes and Wally O'Dell don't want that.

So, will our party's representatives wake up and get moving, or can we expect the hostile take-over of our fragile Democracy to continue?

phone call they got. They must have bombarded the phones.

another poster said to me earlier. People statistically aren't likely to come out for "No" as much as a confirming vote.

are not deemed partisan and are often confusing. Not everything is a conspiracy.

the results come back wacky, or there are mass discrepancies like last time, do you think this will warrant the necessary scrutiny? I am merely asking people what they think.

the tone around here is always that the election is a complete fix whenever things don't go our way.

I am reluctant to trust machines that are a little on the squirrelly side, partisan owned, and produce no paper trail. It doesn't so much provide a smoking gun as it does just make me feel uncomfortable believing that things are being tallied accurately and can be verified correctly. If stores, ATMs and banks never gave us paper records, and our transactions were not recorded and documented accurately, we'd all worry about where our money was going. I think it's not too unreasonable for people to worry about where their votes are going, with the documented glitches in these machines, and no paper trail to boot. Both parties admit, (non tin-foilers included) that the computers do glitch pretty regularly, and problems do occur.

all voting machines should print receipts that should then be put in a ballot box. I agree with all this. I just don't think every loss is because of a conspiracy.

I'd feel a lot more confident that we could trust the results, ya know?

they have a huge corporate presence here; and we have Blackwell to boot, not to mention Taft. Can't vote them out till this junk is fixed, can't fix this junk till they are voted out. Anyone who has any idea what option C might be, let me know. Because I'm mightily disgusted right now with a state I'd LIKE to be proud to call home.

This is the sort of stuff that legislatures are supposed to figure out. The issues are incredibly complicated. Whose brilliant idea was it to put this on a ballot? I didn't even bother to glance at the other initiatives.

It calls for a 3 judge board, Ohio calls for a 5 person board with 2 judges. No on California's and Yes on Ohio's? That makes no sense.

An election board instead of the Secy of State's office? How would that solve any problems? Allowing ten days for absentee ballots to arrive?? We have to get them in by election day in Oregon or they don't count. Period.

I think people just saw a hodge-podge of issues that were complicated and just voted no on the whole batch.

on ohio and organized by Soros. The bi- partisan board was claimed to be able to raise taxes. These things were discussed on many right wing talk radio shows including Hannity and a local Pittsburgh show with connections in Ohio. In other words, these were orchestrated talking points for rebub radio.