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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:33 PM
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al-Zarqawi behind Jordanian bombings! NBC News reporting this
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 06:34 PM by Roland99
They've been told by "senior terrorism officials" (or something like that) that Zarqawi was likely behind the bombings at the hotels in Jordan.

A Simon Henderson (labeled a Middle East Analyst) said it would make sense for Zarqawi to attack Jordan.

:wtf:


Andrea Mitchell saying it makes sense because of his ties to al Qaeda and that Zarqawi said there would be more vicious attacks. This was apparently an attempt to get back at countries supporting the war on Iraq.

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:34 PM
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1. Does this guy even exist?
Seriously.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:35 PM
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2. Gen. Wayne Downing was mentioning a letter from Zawahiri
Not sure what the context of that was but was apparently from Zarqawi to him or from him to Zarqawi urging the spreading of attacks...or something.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:45 PM
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6. You say Zawahiri I say Zarqawi, let's call the whole thing off
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:39 PM
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11. FWIW Jean Chales Brisard
(the French guy who wrote 9-11: The Forbidden Truth) has written a biography of Zarqawi called Zarqawi: The New Face of Al-Qaeda.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:36 PM
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3. Okay, I'm skeptical ...
... did this "senior terrorism official" receive his information on official Al Qeada letterhead:

AL QEADA INTERNATIONAL HEADQUARTERS
OLD DUSTY ROAD
CAVE #3 (MEZZANINE LEVEL)
SOMEWHEREOUTTHERE, MIDDLE EAST
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:36 PM
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4. But but but, B*sh let him get away according to MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601

Four months later, intelligence showed Zarqawi was planning to use ricin in terrorist attacks in Europe.

The Pentagon drew up a second strike plan, and the White House again killed it. By then the administration had set its course for war with Iraq.

“People were more obsessed with developing the coalition to overthrow Saddam than to execute the president’s policy of preemption against terrorists,” according to terrorism expert and former National Security Council member Roger Cressey.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:37 PM
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5. Oh, FFS!!! Simon Henderson is a Senior Fellow at WINEP!!!!!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:51 PM
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7. One thing is sure, somebody done did it!
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casual hex Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:52 PM
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8. Zarqawi, yes of course it was...
Of COURSE it was Zarqawi....<visualize my lips silently mouthing the words "Bull Shit">

Yes, this "Zarqawi" is all over the place personally cutting off heads, instigating bombings and spiking westerners drinks.

I think Zarqawi bombed my out-house last week. It's true.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:47 PM
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9. he's racking up some serious frequent flier miles..
welcome aboard! :hi:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:51 PM
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10. And I hear he's up for the Jihadist Consultant of the Year Award.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:46 PM
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12. You can't believe anything
you hear in America anymore. Wait for some corraboration from a foreign media source.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:56 PM
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13. So, we've got one "someone said"
and two "that makes sense"

Do I hear a "It's understood"? How about a "It is commonly believed"?

Sorry.. I need a little who, what, where, why and HOW with my suppositions.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:16 PM
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14. Does Al-Zarqawi exist?
Two good articles on this:

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2005/07/zarqawi_phenomenon.html

(snip)

A remarkable proportion of the violence taking place in Iraq is regularly credited to the Jordanian Ahmad al-Khalayleh, better known as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and his organization Al Qaeda in Iraq. Sometimes it seems no car bomb goes off, no ambush occurs that isn't claimed in his name or attributed to him by the Bush administration. Bush and his top officials have, in fact, made good use of him, lifting his reputed feats of terrorism to epic, even mythic, proportions (much aided by various mainstream media outlets). Given that the invasion and occupation of Iraq has now been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be based upon administration lies and manipulations, I had begun to wonder if the vaunted Zarqawi even existed.
~~~~~

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/26/alzarqawi_real_or_imaginary_inquiring_minds_want_to_know.php

(snip)

My Big Question of the Day: Do you believe that there is actually such a person as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi? Or has he been "created" by the Pentagon to distract from the fact that Iraq is a massive failure?

When we were being pushed into this illegal war, the administration made a big deal about the so-called "link" between Saddam and Al Qaeda validating it with the statement that al-Zarqawi was fitted with an artificial leg in Baghdad and lived and worked in Al Qaeda training camps in the northern Kurdish areas. However, the newly redesigned al-Zarqawi doesn't seem to have a bum leg. Even some FOX News guests have attempted to explain away this obvious discrepancy. A 17-page letter, purportedly intercepted last year from a deal Al Qaeda courier and allegedly written by al-Zarqawi, has still not been verified by certified document examiners. Yet the media treats it as if it was thoroughly and publicly vetted.

Last April, just prior to the first Fallujah stand-off, independent reporter Dahr Jamail reported that the average Iraqi didn't believe in the existence of al-Zarqawi.
~~~~~
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:44 PM
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15. Oh, I think he exists. But what other name does he go by?
Dick Cheney perhaps? Maybe Donald Rumsfeld? Then there's that Wolfowitz fella. That name always seemed made-up to me. Of course, there's always Dubya but he's probably too soused and/or just too plain stupid to be planning attacks and stuff.

Yes, I think Zarqawi exists. I just wonder what his REAL name is.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:09 PM
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17. Feith has been on the down low of late.
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bhuddaboy Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:01 PM
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16. Suspicious
First, this happens early enough in the day so that it knocks yesterday's beating the Republican's took at the polls ignored on the evening news broadcasts.

Second, we are told that three simultaneous attacks are Zarqawi's M.O. There is no other terrorist out there who behaves like that. (* * Bin Laden * * cough, cough).

Third, we hear they know approximately where Zarqawi is lurking - let's try eastern Iraq.

Within the next few days we will hear that the elusive Zarqawi has slipped across the Syrian border and is being sheltered by the Syrian government. Then we get to Syria attack with the military we have, not the military we want.

:tinfoilhat:
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:45 PM
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18. This was Al-qaeda!! For all we know
Zarqawi is dead. No one has seen him in ages and the beheading stopped. The last I heard, he was in bad shape and dying.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:49 AM
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19. Ah, yes - the "Bionic" superman strikes again...
damn, guess his 150th #2 man will be caught by tomorrow.:hide:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:05 AM
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20. Not bad for a dead guy!
He's mightier than the Clenis.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:41 AM
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21. al-Zarqawi DOES exist and B*sh CHOSE NOT TO KILL HIM before the Iraq war
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 10:43 AM by npincus
http://mediamatters.org/items/200410270007

Debating his existence is silly; he is quite alive and well, thanks to that fucking monkey who thinks he's a president.

Most under-reported story that needs MSM REVISITING: B*Sh Admin opted NOT to 'take out' al-Zarqawi BEFORE the start of the Iraq war because the Chimp was determined to invade and topple Hussein, and wasn't interested in prosecuting 'the war on terror' in any other fashion.

So, Nick Berg would still have a head on his shoulders, and many, many thousands would be alive today, and Bin ladin wouldn't have a command center in Iraq, if the so-called commander-in-chief had dropped a couple of well-placed bombs when we KNEW where this terrorist and his minions were.


The media has remained largely silent on The Wall Street Journal's October 25 report that President George W. Bush's administration passed up several opportunities to attack and potentially kill terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi before the start of the Iraq war. The Journal article expanded on a March 2 NBC Nightly News report suggesting that the administration passed up chances to attack Zarqawi; the report noted that several former administration officials and military officers have questioned the administration's decision to hold off on such attacks. While the Bush administration has repeatedly called attention to Zarqawi, their failure to attack him in 2002 has gone virtually unreported. Zarqawi has recently made headlines in connection with the killing of 50 U.S.-trained Iraqi soldiers and is, according to the Associated Press and The New York Times, "believed responsible for hundreds of killings."

<snip>

OLBERMANN: The terror group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is claiming responsibility for the slaughter of those Iraqi troops and tonight come new charges that the Bush administration passed up several opportunities to take out Zarqawi when it could have, well before the war began in Iraq.

Zarqawi, a Jordanian militant with ties to Al Qaeda, accused of most of the violence we have seen in Iraq since the invasion. Senior Pentagon officials now telling The Wall Street Journal that in the spring 2002, the U.S. military had Zarqawi in its sights, tracking him down in Iraq, drawing up a number of plans to go after him and sending those plans to the White House. The president personally -- say those Wall Street Journal sources -- rejected those plans, choosing instead to wait.

This is not the first time such reports have surfaced. NBC News having reported in March that the Bush administration had several chances to wipe out Zarqawi's terrorist group and perhaps Zarqawi himself, but it never pulled the trigger.




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