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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:37 AM
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Plesae Explain to me how any Republican can say that it wasn't a disaster
They lost two governor's races and a third governor (A Republican)staked his reputation on 4 ballot propositions and lost. Suffolk County (New York) went Democrat for this first time in 30 Years. The Mayor of a major city went down and the reason most people gave for why they didn't vote for him was his endorsement of scrub, while the Democratic Mayor of Detroit, who is a major crook, gets re-elected. Then 8 pukie schoolboard members get ousted in Pennsylvania.
Someone explain how this isn't a disaster for them?
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:40 AM
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1. Ego.
That's your explanation. These people cannot STAND to be proved wrong. They will all but kill themselves just to save a little face. Just beyond pathetic...not to mention childish. Grow up, little Republicans! It's fun! You'll make lots more friends!:D
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:40 AM
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2. We now live in the Bizzaro Bush world
War is Peace
Oppression is Freedom
Lies are Truth
Failure is Success

You get the idea ... :eyes:
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:46 AM
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3. They're trying to downplay the national implications.
But they are there, nonetheless.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:53 AM
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4. It was a disaster
All the way around. W has failed to help our economy other than the rich, put us into a war which can't be won, and promoted class hatred.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:07 AM
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5. Yes, people around here
usually non-politcal have been observing aloud that there are a lot of wealthy people who aren't paying their way in this society. It might also eventually occur to them that the wealthy and elite are BADLY OUTNUMBERED!!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:48 AM
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6. And the grassroots are having an impact.
Do they understand that they DO have the power?
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:48 AM
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7. They still have WH and Congress, so it wasn't a disaster
Let's make 2006 a disaster for them.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:39 AM
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8. They Still Have Ohio in the Bag
We will have to find some way to win the Presidency without either Ohio or Florida.


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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:38 AM
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9. Missouri
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 07:39 AM by loyalsister
We won 1 out of 3 races.
The reason it wasn't a disaster is that they experimented and figured out exactly how to win next time.
Distancing themselves from the gov. and changing some of the the gov.s policies will assure them a win.

One of the Republicans said he would undo some of the governor's medicaid cuts and won.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:43 AM
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10. It was clearly a disaster for the repugs.
The only "bright" spot for them is that Texans slammed Gay Marriage.

One thing we need to work towards is keeping that crap off of the ballots in '06. Those referendums bring out the fundies in droves.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:59 AM
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11. they repeat the talking points. they don't think about it. it's simple...
they don't think, period. they're on autopilot... on remote control, like Gigantor.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 12:18 PM
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12. While I'm celebrating....
realistically speaking...the elections changed nothing. Virginia and New Jersey both still have democratic governors. California is still democratic, and Ohio is still republican. I choose to celebrate that we didn't lose. They are probably miffed they didn't win...but in reality not much has changed.
Let's not get cocky before 2006....that will be more of a bellweather. Bush bucked the trend of presidents losing seats, I really don't know how. But let's bring back the trend where president DO LOSE seats....okay?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:46 PM
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13. On that I'd disagree
If you look at the rise of the Republican through the 80's and 90's, they did it at the local level. They won school board seats, mayors races, state houses and governorships. We took control of the Board of Supervisors in an area that had been Republican for thirty years. The voters in St. Paul (which is a Democratic City I realize) ousted one Democratic Mayor in favor of another one, solely on the basis of georgie bush (BTW the Mayor had done a pretty good job there as well, so it shows the effect scrub has on people). As far as the governor's races, last Summer Kilgore seemed a shoe-in to get elected and he lost.
You have to look at this nationally. Local as well as state wide. And on that level we had a damned good day.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:01 AM
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14. The changes were minimal...
basically the status quo is still where it was. It's a mistake to think we've made huge inroads. I've followed both of the Gubernatorial races in VA and NJ. The repub candidates ran neanderthalic campaigns and went negative on ridiculous subjects. Are you actually surprised a democrat won in New Jersey? Virginia is a state that can go either way for Governor. You had a democrat in the state house, and his protogee won. Sure school boards are important, and again...while I'm thrilled we didn't lose I don't see a shift having occurred. Not yet, at any rate. However, we need to shift the public for 2006, hopefully our NOT LOSING in 05 will gain momentum.
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Blue Topaz Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:22 AM
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15. You can call it status quo
but the rest of the world saw it for what it was: a referendum on Bush's toxicity. We all saw him try to sway Virginia toward Kilgore at the 11th hour, and FAIL. Bush's shill Arnie FAILED. The GOP is now running away from Bush, and their caucus is fracturing.

Bush is a lame duck just one year into his second term, and can no longer count on having the Legislature do his bidding. Note how just today the House tabled their grotesque budget cuts because they didn't have enough votes for it. Also, the Senate committee considering extending Bush's grotesque tax cuts for the wealthy fell apart today. These are enormous wins!

Every poll out there shows that the public trusts Dems over Repugs on virtually every single issue. The tide has turned and we have momentum on our side.

It was a big, big week for Dems.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:19 AM
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16. You're right in the sense that we finally stopped the Bush
juggernaut. This means the penduluum has shifted momentum...I'm simply saying, that the shift doesn't yet signify a swing in the opposite direction. We've simply stopped the swing in their direction.
Look, I'm not dumping on the party, I'm just inspecting the gifts.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:26 AM
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17. Oh that explanation is a piece of cake!
They dissociated from reality eons ago.
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