I don't want dems to win a majority in congress in 2006

Although I believe Bush should be impeached and that would be the only way to do it, I think we are better off letting the republican experiment play itself out and completely fail. Then when 2008 rolls around they can't blame the dems for anything. They had control of all branches for 8 years and they screwed up the country.

If dems were to win back the house or senate in 2006 it would be with only a slim majority. Most of their agenda would be blocked by repubs and the president, the country would continue on its path to ruination but they would say it was the dems in congress' fault. I know it might sound illogical but they would try it.

I really think we are witnessing the collapse of the republican party. But it won't happen overnight. I hope for minor gains in both house and senate in 2006 setting up a complete takeover in 2008.

I can suffer two more years if it means we can destroy the republicans for a long, long time.

Is that a risk you'd be willing to take?

I'm not.

Hell, I'm not even sure we can wait as long as '06.

the path the thugs have chosen is so precipitous that they may force us to win and win big whether we want them to or not. it will be sad, but i'm sure we can rise to the occasion.

I can not tolerate suffering anther DAY. Do you realize, once they win Congress in 2006, this sets the upward momentum, pace of leadership for a Democratic President. Do you know that the Democrats are shut out of all any meetings, committee's and the ability to set an agenda! The repugs never interact with the Democratic members....never unless they are attacking.

Hell Ya I want them to bring back democracy!

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If dems win control in 2006 there are many independents and moderates that will vote for a repub pres in 08 to balance power.

voted for D's to control the Senate and House.

in the majority and come up with a good plan for governing the country starting right now...If * is still in the WH for the final two years, he will be hamstrung even more than he is now, and the people will be biting at the bit to make further change. We're in the driver's seat, now let's start the engine and put the baby in gear.

a) First and foremost, I don't think our country can stand 3 more years of Rethug dominance in all 3 branches. Left unchecked, they will surely -- gleefully -- drive the US over the cliff.

b) Republicans will never stop blaming dems for everything. It's the way they're wired.


c) The GOP is not simply going to collapse and go away. Again, that's not the way they're wired. They will assume their position and begin to fight again.

Just my two cents.

I mean realistically, we could win back the senate and pick up a lot of seats in the house. If we were to get a majority in the house that would be great too because we could impeach. I just have weird ideas at 6 in the morning after being up since 1. I certainly don't want other people to suffer for 2 more years but I do want the repubs to go down hard for what they have done to this country.

The deficit has gone from 5.1 trillion to 8 trillion. With treasury rates at 4.5%, that means we're paying $360 billion dollars per year in interest alone. That's just one small issue - but look how it locks us into a death-spiral. It will take a generation to even begin working this off.

Then we have peak oil. Please don't say I didn't warn you. We've had a little respite - thanks to France and Europe sending us oil from their reserves. But those shipments just ended...so expect prices to resume their upward move. Is the present misadministration up to handling a transition to expensive energy? (For that matter, is anyone? But I digress.)

We also face an increasingly hostile world due to our foreign policy. We have more than 2,000 dead U.S. soldiers, along with a bleeding sore of a war in Iraq - one which isn't going to be resolved anytime soon.

There's also a little matter of the housing bubble which may be ending even now. Just after the change in the bankruptcy bill that will transform homeowners into indebted serfs.

And all of this is going to need attention well before 2008. As others have suggested, even January 2007 is too late to avoid considerable damage.

We really need at least one house of congress so we can block further idiocy. As for both houses and impeachment; well, please permit me my dreams. :evilgrin:

You have seen how much damage this congress has done to our country and our planet and you are willing to allow it to do more, just for the sake of saying 'I told you so.'?

Not me.

long time.

I would never vote for a repuke to help make this happen. I'm just saying that making small gains in '06 and letting the ship sink under republican captain and crew would set us up very well for '08 and beyond.

Besides there are people here wanting Hillary to win dem primary. That is a far worse idea that will screw us for sure.

The GD Repukes STILL blame everything on Clinton for god sake. They are not going to change at all!! A slow transition of the R out of power is NOT what we need - we need them GONE now!! How much longer can this nation survive under the idiot in the WH? And i am being selfish too - my son hits draft age in 2 years - and please dont tell me we do not have a draft - I know we don't right NOW

You do know we are on the same ship, don't you?

Too many important things are being slashed to bits or ignored: health care, education, food stamps . . . to name a few. We need to take over Congress in the next election and the White House in 2008 in order to get our country back. Nothing . . . absolutely nothing . . . can make them look any better over that 2 year period unless they do a complete turnaround and propose universal health care or something and we know that won't happen. Expect more scandals, more indictments and more rats abandoning ship.

Then they can stop a lot of things that are going to be disasterous for the country that they may not be able to stop or will have a much harder time stopping in 2 more years.

Things like tax-cuts for the wealthy and drilling in ANWR.

Once these things go into place then tearing them down becomes harder and opens you up to attacks that could shift the balance back after 08.

PLus, right now the Repubs are worried but still think they can regain the high ground and prevail. So they are not being as drastic as they could be. As time runs out on them they are going to have even more pressure on them to pony up to their cronies by dismantling things that work for Americans in favor of things that work for their special interests.

Think of what the President will do on his last legs to try to cement his "legacy" with a Congress where the majority is willing to enshrine another Reganesque myth of a strong Republican leader by bowing to his will (worst case might be an invasion of Korea, Iran or Syria to bring democracy to the world).

Additionally, there is a possability of more Supreme Court nominees, etc.

No 6 years of unfetterred ability to mess up America is long enough for me.

That's just a silly method of going about taking back power. Besides, I really don't think that strategy is going to work. Sure, it has worked in some elections like in 1948 where Truman was able to blame the 80th Congress successfully for blocking his agenda and he beat the Republicans soundly on the national level while bringing a Democratic Congress with him. However, I just don't see that happening here.

important than trying to implement a Democratic agenda.

we cannot afford another 3. 1 more year of this insanity and it will be time to restore some balance and sanity. you cannot allow these thugs to keep control or we will never see free and fair elections again.

He's was just hoping for the same thing this past weekend.

they are spinning it that the Democrats are to blame for not stopping them - ignoring there was no possibility of stopping them.

How many will die or suffer in those years that we wait until the repubs collapse. America can't afford to wait.

And how detrimental would it be to the Dems if we couldn't even win back at least one house of Congress when everything is going to hell in a handbasket? That would be a great show of weakness.

of this experiment reaching its limits and end within the next year.

It's getting pretty hollow within the GOP. There isn't much left on their national agenda that they can agree upon internally and not much of that the great middle of the electorate- now overtly slipping liberal- will accept.

If you look at opinion polling, over the past 5 years there is pretty clear fundamental pattern of about 1% of the electorate absolutely giving up on the policies and people of the present incarnation of the GOP per month. Bush put everything his party is and stands for on the table in 2000/2001, good (yes, there was a little) and bad. The motivation for tapping every last bit of latent conservatism and resentment in American voters was an ugly one. But the effect has been to drain these things, massive irrationality and insanity and delusions and pain of the past, of the Cold War and Cold War America principally, out. It's been a horrible lot of it and a horrible five years, but a great deal of internalized evil is now out.

We're around the 60% rejection mark. At 70% the GOP's coalition blows apart, the effects on its power are obvious. It's getting hard for me to see how we don't get there within the year- that party is cannibalizing itself already.

The rock bottom bloc of Bush support (i.e. antiliberals) lies around 19-22%, and the day he loses the first of them is the the day he'll be told that resignation and removal are concrete possibilities. It's the Nixon situation/dilemma of August 1974, when his approval rating was 24%. One could project Bush's present ratings and rate of decline forward and see a comparable situation reached in early/mid 2007. I see Bush and Democrats choosing to cut a deal instead of impeachment

The Bush/Cheney choice of 2000 to ruthlessly use up/exploit all the Republican substance and credibility (that held/given by Democrats, particularly) fully to maximize their power, then choosing to carry the method on past 2004 rather than moderate, logically entailed the risk of running out of all 'political capital' as a consequence. Political bankrupcy. They're cannibalizing The Party Nixon Built at this point.

You have to admit, the result is that Democrats- forced to become the party of and for the Modern world in the process- will face a field cleared of strong opposition as a result in the next few years. The political recapitulation of the Civil War of the past 15 years or so in the public arena has reached its 1865 phase.

I seriously doubt the people will wait until 2008...