Imagine a film about Ohio, 2004...

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/10/movies/10ohio.html

Most of the ground the movie covers will be familiar territory to followers of politics, however: Mr. Bush had a consistent message, Mr. Kerry did not, the movie asserts; Mr. Kerry erred by restraining Democrats from attacking Mr. Bush at their convention, only to be excoriated by the Republicans at theirs; Mr. Kerry never came up with an effective retort to the "flip-flopping charge"; and on and on.

While the terms "flip-flop" and "Swift Boat" might seem to some an unpleasant but mercifully distant memory, Mr. Stern is certain that this trip back to the 2004 campaign has only grown more enticing in an intervening year marked by scandal and escalating debate over the rationale for war in Iraq.

"I think this movie has gained relevance every day," he said. "The more that this administration has taken the country in one direction, I think people want to understand how it is that the political process got to the point where this president was elected."

What we really need is a film about the voting process, not the campaigns, imho.

Never !!!

an honest film about how Bush's campaign stole this election and the tactics they used. Now that I would be interested in!

That is how the review characterizes the movie, and yet it goes on to say that it provides the analysis that:

Mr. Kerry erred by restraining Democrats from attacking Mr. Bush at their convention, only to be excoriated by the Republicans at theirs; Mr. Kerry never came up with an effective retort to the "flip-flopping charge..."

Reality check here. The film maker is "liberal," they say. What a shame that we've come to a point where the "error" pointed out is the more honorable tactic, and the mudslinging, lying, dirty tricks and stunts are taken as the norm.

Is it just me or is this just plain old up is down, yes is no, 2005 is 1984 lack of real values?

How can we even hope to move toward a more sane election process when we as a nation, or at least our media, don't even begin with an assumption that honesty and integrity would be the best kind of campaigning.

Like so many other nasty things, such as torture, it is one thing to know it goes on. It is another to institutionalize it by law or de facto by not even commenting on its putridness.

:puke:

(To say nothing of election theft etc, a whole nother hornet's nest)

(and on another thread in GD) have. Wasn't Michael Moore planning a film about the voting process in Ohio?

we haven't seen the film.

The review characterizes the film maker one way, and then characterizes what is in the film in such a way that the 2 should not occur together, IMHO.