Let's play: Fantasy Cabinet

I THINK this is in the correct forum, it's a political thing. I hope I'm right and it's not a lounge thing as well.

No scrapping over who's in who's Fantasy Cabinet now...keep it clean and friendly :) Oh the only rule is, that you have to do your best to fill in ALL the below Cabinet positions!

Who would your Fantasy Cabinet comprise of? Here's mine:

President John Edwards

Vice-President Mark Warner

Secretary of State Joseph Wilson

Secretary of Defense Max Cleland

National Security Wesley Clark

Attorney-General Richard Blumenthal (he's the A-G of Connecticut)

Solicitor-General Patricia Madrid (she's the A-G of New Mexico)

HUD Secretary William Daley (brother of Mayor Richard Daley)

Treasury Secretary Laurence Summers

Chairman of The Federal Reserve Robert Rubin

Ambassador to The UN Richard Holbrooke

Secretary of the Interior Thurbert Baker (he's the A-G of Georgia)

Veterans Affairs General Hugh Shelton (former Chairman of the JCoS)

Energy Secretary John Breaux

Secretary of Labor Richard Gephardt

Secretary of Health & Human Services Kathleen Sibelius (she's the Governor of Kansas and she has a brilliant health service record)

Secretary of Education Roy Barnes ("former" Governor of Georgia. I say "former" because I genuinely believe that Roy Barnes WAS re-elected ditto Senator Max Cleland...DIEBOLD stole it off them)

Environmental Protection Agency Lincoln Chafee (he does have a decent record here)

Chairman of the SEC Eliot Spitzer

Director of the CIA Valerie Plame Wilson (IF there was any justice she would be)

The Department of Homeland Security I would abolish, there's too many cooks in the kitchen and it's costing FAR TOO MUCH MONEY to run. It'd be abolished and I'd return all the relevant departments within it back to their original outside departments.

There you have it. I've shown you mine, now you show me yours...

On Edit: I know that not all the above positions are Cabinet positions, but WHAT the heck, I just threw all of them in.

Vice President Hilliary Clinton

Going to have to do EVERY Cabinet job between them...but I know that Wesley and Hillary ARE up to this enormous task :)

President Hillary Clinton
Vice President Wesley Clark
Secretary of State Joseph Biden
Secretary of Defense Russel Honore
Atty. General Glenda Hatchett
Secretary of the Treasury Kathleen Connell
Secretary of Housing Barbara Rose Collins
Secretary of the Interior Corinne Wood
Secretary of Energy Carol Moseley Braun
Secretary of Education Delaine Eastin
Secretary of Labor John J. Sweeney
Secretary of Health and Human Services Dr. Jocelyn Elders

President: Wesley Clark

Vice-President: Barack Obama

Secretary of State: Bill Clinton

Secretary of Defense: Max Cleland

National Security Advisor: Bob Graham

Attorney-General Richard Blumenthal (he's the A-G of Connecticut)

Solicitor General: Alan Dershowitz

HUD Secretary: John Conyers

Treasury Secretary: Eli Broad (founder of KB Home/SunAmerica Insurance/LA city redevelopment)

Chairman of The Federal Reserve: Robert Rubin

Ambassador to The UN: Scott Ritter

Secretary of the Interior: Bernard Sanders

Veterans Affairs: Cindy Sheehan

Energy Secretary: Bill Richardson

Secretary of Labor: John Sweeney

EPA: Robert Redford

Secretary of Health & Human Services: Kathleen Sibelius (she's the Governor of Kansas and she has a brilliant health service record)

Chairman of the SEC Eliot Spitzer

President Warren Beatty
Vice President Jon Stewart
Secretary of State Ann-Margret
Secretary of Defense Larry David
Treasury Secretary Kathy Hilton
Energy Secretary Conan O'Brian
Secretary of Labor Angelina Jolie
Chairman of SEC Sandra Oh
Director of CIA: the brain of Divine kept alive by modern science including evolution
EPA Robert Redford
Secretary of Education Jerry Springer
Secretary of Heath and Human Services Sean Penn

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President: Me. Hey, if Bush can do it, how hard can it be?

Vice-President: Paula Poundstone

Secretary of State: Bono

Secretary of Defense: Jackie Chan

National Security: John Locke (from "Lost")

Attorney-General: Sorry, I haven't been able to come up with an honest lawyer

Solicitor-General: Heidi Fleiss

HUD Secretary: Ty Pennington

Treasury Secretary: Oprah Winfrey

Chairman of The Federal Reserve: Jimmy the Greek

Ambassador to The UN: Madonna (who else knows more about foreign affairs?)

Secretary of the Interior: Martha Stewart

Veterans Affairs: Blanche Devereaux ("Golden Girls")

Energy Secretary: Tina Turner (that woman's got enough energy to keep this country running for the next millenium)

Secretary of Labor: Bobbi McCaughey (remember the McCaughey septuplets?)

Secretary of Health & Human Services: This one's for the ladies: Noah Wylie

Secretary of Education: Jon Stewart

Environmental Protection Agency: The gardner on "Desperate Housewives"

Chairman of the SEC: Bret Favre (oh, THAT SEC!)

Director of the CIA: I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

The Department of Homeland Security: Don't need one. By the time Bush gets through with this country, there will be precious little left to protect.

President: John Edwards

Vice-President: Barak Obama or Dianne Feinstein

Secretary of State: Bill Richardson

Secretary of Defense: Paul Hackett

National Security: Bob Graham, Jane Harman, or Gary Hart

Attorney-General: John Edwards if he's not president; otherwise, Patrick Fitzgerald

Solicitor-General: Patrick Fitzgerald, if he's not AG

HUD Secretary: Mike Espy (MS) (he deserves a chance to restore his good name)

Treasury Secretary: Robert Reich

Chairman of The Federal Reserve: Bill Clinton

Ambassador to The UN: Max Cleland

Secretary of the Interior: Wilma Mankiller

Veterans Affairs: I'd look for someone with excellent credentials in public health as well as military service

Energy Secretary: John Breaux (your choice sounds good to me)

Secretary of Labor: Richard Gephardt (definitely)

Secretary of Health & Human Services: Cong. Rahm Emanuel (IL)

Secretary of Education: Judy Heumann (former Asst. Sec. for Special Education)

Environmental Protection Agency: Gary Locke or Janet Napolitano

Chairman of the SEC: Eliot Spitzer (your choice sounds good to me)

Director of the CIA: William Cohen (yes, a Republican, but he would restore some stability and credibility to that organization)

The Department of Homeland Security: I agree that it should be abolished, but as a transition leader, I would pick Jane Harman, Gary Hart, or James Lee Witt

AND FINALLY, my personal secretary and closest personal advisor: Catherine Zeta-Jones (sorry, I couldn't resist)

Oh I DO declare...he's DIVINE :9 :9



I first saw him in the film "Wilde" (1997) where he plays Lord Alfred "Bosie" Douglas. Oh he's a beautiful and edible boy...he's the kind of boy that a girl could just...eat all up...Ahem.

I also agree about abolishing the DHS, but because I think "there are too many chiefs and not enough indians" :hi:

Great minds think alike...I prefer your phrase of "too many chiefs and not enough indians" I've made a note of that!

:hi:

On Edit: Dammit, spelling error.

Please be careful about using the phrase "too many chiefs and not enough indians." Many Native Americans take offense to it.

Let's not start all of that type of thing. You know the Cleveland Indians and the Washington Redskins.

It's all harmless mon amie :) It's not malicious in my humble opinion.

And I didn't say it was malicious, but words don't have to be malicious to hurt. Furthermore, a society's measure of what is offensive should not be made by the people doing the talking, but by the people being talked about. "Cleveland Indians" and "Washington Redskins" may not be offensive to you, but they are very offensive to most Native Americans, and, in my book, WE (Native Americans) get to decide.

Often people do not know when something is offensive until they are told. Once informed, they usually try to curb the behavior out of respect and courtesy for the other person. That's all I was trying to do: make some people aware of a behavior that they might not have recognized as being offensive. The polite response is to say, "Thank you. I wasn't aware of that." Courtesy is still a virtue.

Sorry ;) I wasn't aware of that.

as DiFi for VP. :puke:

Play nice...it COULD have been WORSE, it COULD have been Holy Joe Lieberman for Veep.

:scared:

to admit that her vote for the war was a mistake. That's more than you can say about any of the people currently being mentioned.

I stated that everybody had to play nice and friendly and NOT beat-up on ANYBODY elses particular Cabinet choices.

Please, this is a jovial thread, I don't want it to turn into a bashing so and so thread and there be arguing and whatnot.

It's a Fantasy Cabinet thread...'um, NOBODY likes Joe Lieberman, so you CAN bash him if you want...but some people DO like Senator Feinstein, so you know...

BASH HOLY JOE!!

Isn't her husband in a position to profit handsomely from the war? I thought I read that here.....

Additionally, I'm more impressed with those who had sense enough to NOT vote for the war in the first place.

Julie

her "too many cooks in the kitchen". I was being playful, I'm sorry it offended you.

for 10yrs. after his retirement.

He could not, therefore, serve in that cabinet in that capacity.

TC

For National Security Advisor.

I know about that 10-year rule, which is why Cleland would be at Defense and not Clark.

:)

my apologies. My eyes are bad these days, and I misread.

TC

My eyes have been playing up too...need more eyedrops I think :)

One interesting thing is that we generally come up with mostly the same people, just assigned to different jobs. Which suggests to me that there's a really talented bunch of Democrats out there, and no matter who ends up in which position, they will be light-years ahead of the cretinous criminals we're stuck with now.

My own favorite person is Wes Clark. I'd like to see him run for President again, but I'd also be happy with him as Vice President, Secretary of State, or National Security Advisor. Then I'd pick a few of my other favorites (Boxer, Edwards, Cleland, Holbrooke, Wilson, Dean, etc.)), mix 'em around, and no matter where on the list they wind up I'd love it.

The fact that we mostly all come up with the same names, just in different job positions.

This ALSO tells me, that some of us might be in the center, some of us might be left-of-center and some of us might be left-left...but the fact that we ALL tend to choose many of the same names, that says that we're ALL part of the Democratic Party, we're ALL part of the same family. I don't like it when everybody starts arguing and having bust-up's, it's upsetting because we're all in the SAME party.

Personally I'm a Centrist Democrat, I'm in the Center, but I've got a STRONG Populist streak.

Re. Senator Boxer, yes if Phil Angelides kicks the Lughead out next year...then I'd have Barbara Boxer in my fantasy cabinet, I think Barbara Boxer would be trusted with protecting Social Security...or perhaps I'd appoint her as Under-Secretary of State to Joseph Wilson.

Senator Boxer :yourock:

Sec of State: Bill Clinton - probably the only face the world will listen to in order to recover from this Junta.

Atty General: Elliot Spitzer

Vet Affairs: Max Cleland

The Repukes would go APESHIT if Bill Clinton was Secretary of State...which would be FAB driving the idiots even crazier than they already are!

Okay, we'll have to find Joseph Wilson a different job, and instead have Bill Clinton at the State Department :)

Richard Holbrooke, the poor thing, he's being switched around from pillar to post...he'll have to become White House Chief-of-Staff.

n/t

And yes, I agree Jim Hightower is excellant.

Secretary of Agriculture Jim Hightower.

:)

I don't see it, no experience. Look what we have now though, Edwards probably has more foreign policy exper at least he knows who is in charge but, pres i don't see it.

If you want to bash Edwards or whoever, please this ISN'T the thread. I stated that nobody was supposed to bash anybody elses CHOICES.

It's just a good natured thread, it's NOT a policy thread or anything.

C'mon, be a sport :)

Vice-President Howard Dean
Secretary of State Bill Clinton
Secretary of Defense Max Cleland (good choice!)
National Security ????
Attorney-General ????
HUD Secretary Mario Cuomo
Chairman of The Federal Reserve Paul Krugman
Ambassador to The UN John Conyers
Secretary of the Interior RFK Jr
Veterans Affairs John McCain (making it bipartisan!)
Energy Secretary ????
Secretary of Labor Teddy Kennedy
Secretary of Health & Human Services Hillary Clinton
Secretary of Education Cornel West
Environmental Protection Agency Bruce Babbit
Chairman of the SEC Eliot Spitzer (another good call!)
Director of the CIA Chuck Hagel
The Department of Homeland Security Chuck Hagel

Sec. of State: Dennis Kucinich
Sec. of Defense: Max Cleland
Nat'l. Security Advisor: Joseph Wilson
Atty. General: Patrick Fitzgerald
Solicitor General: Bill Clinton
Veterans Affairs : Shelton - Are you kidding? Try Anthony Zinni
Energy Secretary: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Sec. of Education: Elizabeth Burmaster (Wi. State Superintendent)
Chairman of SEC: Yeah, Spitzer it is
CIA Director: Bill Clinton
HUD Secretary: Jimmy Carter


Other:

Press Secretary: Helen Thomas
Chief of Staff: John Conyers

I don't know how you can even write that name and sleep at night. Or are you making millions shilling for this war too?

I'm sooooo pissed after reading that name, I'm done with this thread.

Of no bashing.

Oh heck...I won't be able to handle any more rule breaking.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

NO SHELTON!

"I've shown you mine, now you show me yours."

Surely you jest? :)

President - Howard Dean

Vice President - Wes Clark

Secretary of State - Jimmy Carter

Secretary of Defense - Max Cleland

Attorney General - John Edwards

Secretary of the Interior - Al Gore

Environmental Protection Agency - Bobby Kennedy Jr.

UN Ambassador - Bill Clinton (provided he stops hanging around the Bush family so goddamn much)

Director of CIA - Valerie Plame (unfortunately, it's the only job she can still have there, thanks to Cheney/Rove/Scooter/Novakula/Millwhore/etc.)

Homeland Security - Gary Hart (Needless to say this department would be drastically overhauled from the Bush version)

Secretary of Labor - Dick Gephardt (what the Hell, he apologized for Iraq)

Health & Human Services - Dr. Judith Steinberg Dean (is that legal?)

Secretary of HUD - John Conyers

I'm drawing a blank on the rest. Should have appointed a committee....

President Wesley Clark

Vice President John Edwards

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Secretary of Defense Max Cleland

Deputy Secretary of Defense Joseph Biden

Attorney General Patrick Fitzgerald

Deputy Attorney General John Conyers

Solicitor General Russell Feingold

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Barack Obama

Secretary of the Treasury Nancy Pelosi

Federal Reserve Chairman Dennis Kucinich

Ambassador to the UN Paul Hackett

Secretary of the Interior Cynthia McKinney

National Security Adviser Joseph Wilson

Deputy National Security Adviser Scott Ritter

Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim McDermott

Secretary of Energy Richard Gephardt

Secretary of Labor Jesse Jackson

Secretary of Health and Human Services John Kerry

Secretary of Education Barbara Boxer

Environmental Protection Agency Mark Warner

Director of Central Intelligence Valerie Plame Wilson

FBI Director Elliot Spitzer

Chairman of the SEC Henry Waxman

Secretary of Department of Peace (when it's formed) Cindy Sheehan

Press Secretary Seymour Hersh

Vice President Barbara Boxer

Secretary of State Bill Clinton

Secretary of Defense Gary Hart

Department of Homeland Security Richard Clarke

Attorney General Eliot Spitzer

Veteran's Affairs Max Cleland

FEMA James Lee Witt

Secretary of the Interior Robert Kennedy Jr.

Head of EPA Al Gore

Health and Human Services Maxine Waters

Press Secretary Jon Stewart

This is not a comprehensive list but it's a start.

I think I'll add him to my list as Homeland Security Secretary too.