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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:22 PM
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Pre-election polls or exit polls compared to actual results for 05
I have noticed that DUers often reference pre-election polls and exit polls when Democrats end up losing by a wider margin than predicted, but I haven't heard any discussion about VA or NJ or anything else in 2005.

The only polls I have seen, Rasmussen, were pretty accurate in VA and NJ
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Virginia%20Governor_Election%20Night.htm
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/New%20Jersey%20Governor_Election%20Night.htm

So how accurate were other pre-election polls and or exit polls compared to the actual results in 2005?
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:32 PM
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1. Notice something though....
See how their "Election Day" polls are dead on with the final results.

They conveniently gave Kaine a 9% jump on the day of the election so that it would match the actual results.... LOL.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:37 PM
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2. Yeah, I was just looking at that.
At first I thought they were exit polls, but now I am not so sure. If their Nov 6th predicts were the last polls they did, then both Dems won by much wider margins than predicted. Kaine won by 6%, not the 3% predicted on Nov 6. Corzine won by 10%, not the 5% predicted on Nov 6.


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Ontheinternets Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:47 PM
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3. I think it was done......
like that to discourage the voters from showing up.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:07 PM
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4. Huh? How does a 3% margin discourage
anyone from voting in VA?
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Ontheinternets Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:13 PM
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5. I miss understood,
the democrats where ahead more than three points. :blush:
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:16 PM
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6. Check the posts about the OH initiatives, esp the ones re voting reform.
I think it's interesting that the initiatives that had nothing to do with elections or auditing or fact-checking the voting machines were right on, but the initiatives (2-5 I think) that had to do w/ the voting machines were wildly off in the opposite direction. The pre-election polls were something like 63% for and 37% against but the actual voting was just the reverse, 65% against and 35% for.

Does this suggest something? I think the polls were taken like the Thursday before the Tuesday of the vote, and the agency doing the polling has had excellent, on the mark polling in the past. And even this time, on the initiatives that were not related to vote reform, the polls were right on the money.
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