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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:02 PM
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Summit decries gay marriage.
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5720160.html

David Barton of the Texas-based group Wallbuilders said the Bible condemns not only homosexuality but also capital-gains taxes, progressive income taxes, estate taxes and minimum-wage laws.

WTF is with that? What bible have they been reading? It seems the most evil people are those who don't have a clue that they are evil.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:04 PM
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1. Where in that whack job book does it condemn minimum wage laws, LMFAO.
WWFSMD
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:05 PM
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2. a very prescient book, their bible--condemned things that weren't going
to exist for millenia.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:07 PM
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3. do these folks
Ever really listen to themselves? Lord and Lady.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:08 PM
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5. You're right... it even bans HPV vaccines from what I hear!
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 06:09 AM
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11. If you read the bible carefully it's in there-
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 06:13 AM by drhilarius
Progressive income tax

Exodus 12:13-75

"so the Lord sayeth unto Moses: 'Moses, should thou takest the wage earners and divedeth them in a manner akin to the fields, apportioning the distribution of said wages into a scheme whereby he who earneth more shall be required, after having deducteth 401(k), Roth IRA, charitable contribution {list various deduction and appropriate forms related to them for 50 lines}...and not including all offshore accounts, to contributeth more than he upon whose labor said wage was earned, then thou hast made an abomination in mine eyes."

Minimum Wage laws

Leviticus 5: 3-12

"If he who tilleth thy field wishes to feed upon bread rather than the dirt beneath his sandals, and wishes to drink wine rather than the sweat of his brow, then crush his head against a large stone, for he is an abomination in mine eyes."
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:23 AM
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12. i think i love you.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:07 PM
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4. Why I am I not suprised to see this:
"State Sen. Michele Bachmann, R-Stillwater, the Legislature's chief proponent of the proposed amendment, led one session on its uncertain status in Minnesota, while her husband, Christian therapist Marcus Bachmann, led another on "the truth of the homosexual lifestyle."

Michele Bachmann, who is seeking GOP endorsement for Congress next year, said the marriage initiative is "not a Republican-Democrat issue; it's a biblical, moral issue."

She said the proposed amendment would provide "ironclad" protection against a judge overturning Minnesota law limiting marriage to unions of one man and one woman, but then warned that the U.S. Supreme Court could nullify even a state constitutional ban."

This is one of the leading canidiates to take over Mark Kennedy's seat from the GOP in the MN-6 House District.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:09 PM
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6. "...a biblical, moral issue."
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 02:10 PM by purduejake
This isn't a damned theocracy, idiot.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:14 PM
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8. I am pretty confident the cons will not win in 2006 in MN.
One clue is Rush Limbaugh has been dropped from his radio station here in Minneapolis because of sagging ratings. He is moving to an FM station that is currently smooth jazz. Hannity's radio station dropped 60% when I read this story 2 months ago.

Their anti gay movement usually has large groups of pro-gay marriage supporters following them around, a growing number of supportersd who now steal the pictures away from the Righties in the local papers.

The recent loss by Randy Kelly in the St. Paul elections (a dem who supported Bush last year) is another positive sign. He was thoroughly TROUNCED despite the fact Randy Kelly was not all that bad a mayor.

Bachmann is toast.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:13 PM
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7. Well....
Leviticus only puts down homosexuality in the context of two men in a pagan temple (as if otherwise, hey guys have fun), but then it also says all men must have beards. (I'll bet David likes his razor). It doesn't say a word about taxes and minimum wage laws in any version with which I'm familiar.

I wonder if these people base other parts of their belief systems on a literal reading of other books of metaphor. The Wizard of Oz, for instance.


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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:23 PM
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9. David Barton is a famous historical revisionist for the religious right
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 02:31 PM by brentspeak
He claims, for instance (and with zero source proof), that Thomas Jefferson wrote the Jefferson Bible (the Gospel containing only the sayings of Jesus, with miracles and narrative removed) to be an evangelical tool for 3rd worlders who needed a primer for Christianity.

Barton's also been caught red-handed attributing phony "America was founded as and meant to be a Christian republic" type quotes to various Founders (Adams, Madison). But he hasn't let those embarrassments stop him from continuing to rewrite American history and biography.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 05:51 AM
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10. "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 05:51 AM by belle
Oh, and btw, stupid freeper pseudo-Christians, the deal with Jesus overturning the moneychangers' tables in the temple wasn't because he thought they should be charging a higher interest rate, or converting to Halliburton stocks. It had to do with not perverting the spiritual world with greed.

Threaded any camels lately?

Do you actually read the Gospel, or do you just sort of clutch the book like some sort of holy teddy bear? You're supposed to open it and process the information in the funny little black marks, not just let some snake-oil two-bit moneychanger chew and digest it for you.
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