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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:47 PM
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OMG someone on faux news just said mark warner is pro life.
anyone else hear this or know anything?
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:48 PM
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1. He is personally
but with others he say Abortion is none of his business.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:51 PM
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4. thank you. as long as he keeps it personal. n/t
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:35 PM
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15. He is Roman Catholic just like Kerry
and supports a woman's right to choose

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mark_Warner.htm
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 10:34 PM
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22. Mark Warner is Presbyterian, Tim Kaine is Roman Catholic
both are pro-choice and we're all pro-life. (All Democrats anyway).
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AmericanDream Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:00 PM
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11. Personally, most of us ARE prolife... Are there any pro-abortion ppl here?
What's the point? This is what I don't like about the political discourse and the politicians who yield to such a discourse... being pro-choice and pro-life is not mutually exclusive. Being pro-choice gives you a right to go choose for yourself whether you are pro-life or not, rather than letting your government choose that for you.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:05 PM
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12. well said. n/t
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:34 PM
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14. Hear, hear!
It's another example of the Dems letting the Repugs define the topic.
Some people are pro-choice, and the rest are anti-choice. Let's call it like it is.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:01 AM
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29. Thank You!!
I NEVER use the term pro-life when speaking of these "anti womens rights activists".
The opposite of Pro-Life is Pro-Death and that does not describe me or anyoe else I know.
Stop letting them define our position on this issue!
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 09:43 PM
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20. well what do you call someone like Sen Reid or the younger Casey
running for Gov of PA? They are pro-life and I think to them it means they don't approve of abortion.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:55 AM
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28. Do they oppose choice?
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:38 PM
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32. Correction about Bob Casey, Jr., he is running for Senator vs Santorum:
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 12:40 PM by win_in_06
IgnatiusInsight.com: You are described as a pro-life Democrat. Would you explain your stance on the death penalty, abortion, and embryonic stem cell research and human cloning?


Casey: I believe that being pro-life means the right to a decent life for a mother and her child before and after birth.

I am and I have always been pro-life.



http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features2005/vs_bobcaseyintvw_july05.asp
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:48 PM
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2. Aren't we all pro life?
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:38 AM
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24. Thank you for posting this!
I too am pro life.

I also happen to be pro choice. :-)
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:50 PM
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3. Yeah, your little sister does!
He said that because he's a Catholic, the tenets of his faith forbid abortion and the death penalty.

HOWEVER, he continued to say that that is his own personal belief, and has nothing to do with the laws of the land, and people's right to think and behave differently.

So STOP WORRYING!!!!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:53 PM
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5. my little sister to the rescue. i thought i was going to pass out
when i heard it. finally, a candidate that i really like. i wasn't up early enought to catch the sunday news shows.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:55 PM
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6. Saw him ths morning on one of the shows ...
... impressed me a LOT.

:hi:
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:57 PM
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9. saw him on C-Span last sunday night -- an hour of Q&A --
very impressive. even my republican-leaning husband said he would get his vote.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:56 PM
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7. i thought he was presbyterian -- that's what it says on google.
i guess he converted.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:59 PM
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10. I think Warner was talking about Kaine, who is Catholic.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:57 PM
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8. Of course we're all pro-life with equal value
placed firmly on the vault of personal freedom to choose how and when to act on that concept. Then there's that need to find a definition of pro-life without contortions regarding war, death penalties and failure to aid humans in need of life-saving sustenance and education for the fulfillment of their own lives.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:10 PM
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13. Warner and Kaine are pro-choice, but personally pro-life
Kaine's platform is very Catholic. He wants to reduce abortions by improving access to healthcare, education, and adoption. I believe he supports contraceptives too, as do I, but that goes against our faith.

I believe Warner holds similar views but he is a Presbyterian.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:35 PM
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16. Apologies, everyone (+ CatMother)
I was confusing Warner and Kaine, religion-wise.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 07:03 PM
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17. He can be pro-life in his own personal life (ie HE would never have an
abortion if he were a woman), and still be pro-choice as far as everybody else is concerned. Heck if push came to shove I just might be the same. But I've never been pregnant, so I don't know for sure.

Just remember to tell the fundies: Your rights end where my body begins.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 07:46 PM
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18. He takes the same stance as Kerry, Kaine, etc...
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 07:47 PM by nickshepDEM
Pro-life personally, but does not believe his beliefs should be pushed upon others. He's pro-choice.

He does support partenal notification though.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 09:37 PM
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19. All dems should be pro-life from birth to death
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 09:52 PM
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21. I'm pro life too, and so are most Democrats
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 09:53 PM by ih8thegop
I'm pro-wildlife, pro-postnatal care, anti-death penalty, anti-unjustified war, anti-torture, and on and on.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:36 AM
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23. Bottom line: If he doesn't believe in abortion,
he shouldn't have one. Men need to butt out of a Woman's Right to Choose. They are OUR reproductive systems, in OUR bodies. We should have autonomous control over our own bodies!

What is so gawddammed hard to understand about this? Society doesn't tell men that they don't have autonomous control over their bodies -- as a matter of fact, they wouldn't dare! Women are human beings and their bodies should belong to them. THEIR WHOLE BODIES, not just the part the good old boys will allow.

F*CK THAT!

TC
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:03 AM
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25. he's pro choice
and has been his entire public career. Since when do we listen to Fox News for accurate reporting.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:54 AM
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26. He shouldn't even have an opinion. No man should!
Do I get to have an opinion (and have it codified by law) about what you do with your body? No, DAVE, I don't. You have a Y chromosome, and that exempts you from the Old White Boys Club trying to decide about what you can and cnnot do with your reproductive organs.

TC
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:04 AM
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30. he's pro choice
so he agrees with you. What is this rant about.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:55 AM
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27. But does he want to change Roe v Wade?
People have the right to believe whatever they want. That is different from trying to overturn laws to fit their beliefs.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:04 AM
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31. he is pro choice
stop listening to fox news for reporting about Democrats. They lie.
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