I believe George W. Bush is mentally ill - I really do.

What is wrong with this man? He is touring Japan and China and giving speeches while over there blasting the democrats back in the USA. He is still trying to justify HIS war after almost 3 years into it. What in heavens name does this have to do with this trip to Asia? What sane world leader gives political speeches on foreign soil half way around the globe? And who is he to tell any country how to conduct their business when his own leadership has all but ruined ours?

I think he has lost his mind and hope to hell he never comes back.

This man is one very sick human being.

That feckin' soak.

Nothing is his fault. Nothing is his responsibility. You're wrong for calling him on his failures.

His whole life has been this.

"He just wants to hang out at his pigfarm and have people tell him he's great."

Awesome

overseas.

We all know he hates it. He hates dealing with other leaders. He hates not having dinner at 5 and going to bed at 10. He hates being in other countries. He just wants to hang out at his pigfarm and have people tell him he's great.

Take comfort in the fact that he is running away and that he is utterly miserable.

Bush finally goes to Southeast Asia, and it's to AVOID SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES.

He's spent a lifetime hiding from responsibility for anything.

"He finally goes to Southeast Asia to avoid serving in The United States."

That one is going to find its way into my lexicon - definitely should raise the BP of more than one true believer.

Can I use it?

:yourock:

I'm passing this one on!

before a captive audience at Elmendorf.

He shouldn't be surprised when he flings a great handful of shit as he is running out the door, and then finds shit being tossed back at him as he is running across the lawn!!!!

He is a sick bastard, and I agree, I think he is in serious need of medication to regulate his mood. Either that, or whatever he's on, it ain't working....

This whiny little brat we call Bush requires constant ego building by those around him. When he gets down, they have to build him up. He needs a friendly environment, like military, to feel manly, restored. Since he's the CIC, he knows he can control the entire environment. No pesky interruptors at a military setting. No one to turn their back, no one to register any disapproval.

He's living THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES daily, and his sanity, such that it is, floats on that imaginary bubble.

In a nutshell, he's weak and wacky.

The stark reality is the only escape is sleep that hardly ever comes on the square.

In a nutshell, he's weak and wacky and finished.

Leader of the free world. Well, leader of the ruling fascist party.

She says he has a number of issues that could be easily diagnosed by a psychiatrist.

I believe narcissistic personality disorder fits him, but so does sociopath.

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

you think is admirable? :crazy:

They are worried sick about sex offenders "loose" in Texas. Those who left NO can't be found. Children are not safe! Of course the fact that they are not safe because of lack of food and healthcare is unimportant.:mad:

Given Bush or Jackson I'll opt for Jackson. (2 great choices, huh?)

I think he is whiter than Bush too.

And there is no cure.

He's a proven sociopath and he has no facility for relating to "regular people." He floats around in his elitist bubble and does stupid and dangerous things because he can!

I've never understood the people who despise him as president but say that he's a "nice guy." I don't think so. He's just like the privileged kid at school that everyone hates because he doesn't have to do any work. Unfortunately, this spoiled brat has been given the power to do serious damage to the world.

bigger frogs.

...for perhaps his Admin's "Indictment" Defense.

the shit being peddled by this sociopath.

Something is wrong with his head.

George and he was cuckoo?

I spend my time begging Republicans to take mental illness seriously.
This kind of speculation does not help.
I do think he has behaviors consitent with a narssistic personality disorder, but that is not the same as the kinds of mental illnesses that are a person's "brain torturing their mind."
I also find this line of speculation distasteful because it is reminiscent of a black mark in our history where a fine Senator Tom Eagleton stepped down from consideration for the VP slot with McGovern due to a history of Depression.
If Democrats take this on there is no turning back and they contribute further to the stigmatization my people face.
It's a bad idea because they would lose a lot of voters. All people with disabilities are sticking together on stuff like this more and more + they have family members.

his problem is. And he clearly has issues.

This was not meant in any way to be knock on folks you speak of.

and it violates a principle that has gravitated me toward my Democratic party. I would be ashamed if people did this.

He's paranoid, with delusions of adequacy. Top that with the drugs, booze, and the travel that interrupts his usual 15 hours of sleep per day, and you have a man this close to coming unglued.

he is stuck at the emotional level of a five year old.

I'm still waiting for him to sincerely take personal responsibility for *anything*.

Instead, all we get is the angry rich kid frat boy tantrums.

He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and there is no effective treatment for that. He has no empathy, no conscience, and thinks he is the center of the universe. He will never admit he was wrong about anything, because he doesn't think he ever is.

As a former counselor, I should feel sorry for him, but I don't. He is destructive, and because of his family's money and power, he has been protected from himself, and his destructiveness has been thrust upon the world. It is frankly quite horrifying to think about.

He is one of the least qualified people to be president. I do believe the Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but have also considered him to be a sociopath. This man should never, ever, have been pushed for any position of power. In addition to blaming him, I also blame those who pushed from behind the scenes to place him in power.

Surely, those closest to him had ample opportunity to see just exactly what kind of a man he is. I do think, though, that he is getting worse progressively faster, and is headed toward some kind of implosion. Considering the awesome amount of power he commands, it IS horrifying to think about.

Meaning his family and spouse. There would be denial, and also just ignorance of mental health issues. I would expect 41 and Barb to be of the mindset that it is a "weakness" and it would not be something they would deal with.

As for Laura, the feeling I get with their relationship is that she lets him have his way...I don't believe the urban myths that she made him stop drinking, etc. I think he does whatever he wants. It may be that she learned that early on, to just let him do his thing. And it is not unheard of for a narcissist to have a decent relationship...it is all in how much power and attention they get, so it is conceivable he is very good to her.

What about the others, though? Not family members, but people like Rove? Did he just view Dubya as someone he could manipulate through flattery, to put himself in position as the power behind the throne?

I guess since he has always given me the creeps, I assume that others will have the same reaction, and have been completely baffled since he was elected to be governor of Texas. I never could see the "charm" others spoke of, he struck me as pure evil.

But I haven't been in his presence. Narcissists are often quite charismatic, especially in limited contact.

As for Rove, I can only guess, as I am guessing with all these opinions, but I think what you suggest is very likely part of the relationship. But I think it is quite likely Rove likes and admires him...I don't think Rove is a normal person, either, and I don't think he is all that intelligent. He is cunning and street smart, but who knows how discerning he is? And I hate to bring up Hitler, because everyone does, but he certainly fooled a lot of people, in part because it was in their interest to be fooled. No doubt there are some in Bush's circle who know how to play him, though, and do so, and one of them may be Rove.

Do I think many in that crowd think Bush is abnormal? No, because I think they are overall a misguided and deluded group of people. And also, an ANGRY group of people, which I also find unsettling.

...she will be tolerated by him. The one time we have heard about that she criticized him, he drove the car into the garage wall. Mother Bush told Laura early on "No one criticizes George."

HOWEVER. A main trait of NPD is that the narcissist will try to destroy those who stop flattering them.

As the survivor of a long pained marriage to an NPD-er, I can see that Laura (and the other mommies in his life) walk carefully.

She feeds it, so do a lot of others, IMO.

You have hit the NPD nail on the head here. In the case of GWB it's complicated by his years of alcoholism and (probable) cocaine abuse, which are probably contributing to mental breakdown - witness his performance in the debates v. Kerry. He will definitely try to marginalize and destroy those that no longer feed his narcissism, including Rove et. al, regardless of their past relationship with him. How do I know? I'll introduce you to my mother sometime...

Maybe we ought to start an NPD survivors' group here.

Of course, after the GWB presidency, we'd have to invite the entire US population to join...

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Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President (Hardcover)

Editorial Reviews

From Publishers Weekly
Bush Administration policies are not only a "great catastrophe" but the products of a disturbed mind, according to this provocative blend of psychological case-study and partisan polemic. Psychoanalyst Frank sifts through family memoirs, the writings of critics like Al Franken and David Corn and the public record of Bush’s personal idiosyncrasies for clues to the President’s character, interpreting the evidence in the rigidly Freudian framework of child psychoanalyst Melanie Klein. He finds that Bush, psychically scarred by an absentee father and a cold, authoritarian mother, has developed a galloping case of megalomania, characterized by a Manichaean worldview, delusions of persecution and omnipotence and an "anal/sadistic" indifference to others’ pain, with removal from office the only "treatment option." The author’s exegesis of Bush’s personality traits-the drinking problem, the bellicose rhetoric, the verbal flailings and misstatements of fact, the religiosity and exercise routines, the hints of dyslexia and hyperactivity, the youthful cruelty to animals and schoolmates, the smirk-paints an intriguing, if exaggerated and contemptuous, portrait of a possibly troubled public figure. But Frank’s attempts to translate psychoanalysis into political analysis are unconvincing. Indeed, if Bush’s reneging on campaign promises is a form of clinical "sadism," and his budget deficits an "unconscious attack on his own parents," then Karl Rove, the Cabinet, and both houses of Congress belong in group therapy with him.
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Book Description

"I don't spend a lot of time trying to figure me out. ... I'm just not into psychobabble."

-- George W. Bush
For all his simplicity and affability, George W. Bush has remained, to paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill, "a mystery wrapped in an enigma." In Bush on the Couch, Dr. Justin A. Frank, a well-respected Washington, D.C.–based psychoanalyst and professor of psychiatry, unwraps that mystery, assembling a comprehensive psychological profile of President Bush. Using the principles of applied psychoanalysis -- the discipline of psychoanalyzing public and historical figures pioneered by Freud -- Frank fearlessly builds his case ... and reaches conclusions that are at once highly persuasive and deeply disturbing.

Through a close analysis of Bush's public statements and behavior, as well as the historical record provided by journalists, biographers, and those who have known the president well, Frank traces the development of Bush's character from childhood to the present day. Examining closely the role of the president's parents -- especially Barbara Bush, an acknowledged disciplinarian whose own insecurities may have prevented her from adequately nurturing her son -- Frank finds in Bush's childhood the roots of a dramatic psychic split that remains a dominant influence on his adult worldview. Frank argues that this split has inevitably hampered Bush's ability to manage his emotions, charging his psyche with restless anxiety, and conditioning him to view the world in the black-and-white terms that have so evidently shaped his administration.

Among the other subjects Frank explores:

Bush's false sense of omnipotence, instilled within him during childhood and emboldened by his deep investment in fundamentalist religion

The president's history of untreated alcohol abuse, and the questions it raises about denial, impairment, and the enabling streak in our culture

The growing anecdotal evidence that Bush may suffer from dyslexia, ADHD, and other thought disorders

His comfort living outside the law, defying international law in his presidency as boldly as he once defied DUI statutes and military reporting requirements

His love-hate relationship with his father, and how it triggered a complex and dangerous mix of feelings including yearning, rivalry, anger, and sadism

Bush's rigid and simplistic thought patterns, paranoia, and megalomania -- and how they have driven him to invent adversaries so that he can destroy them
At once a compelling portrait of George W. Bush and a damning indictment of his policies, Bush on the Couch sheds startling new light on an administration whose record of violence and cruelty seems increasingly dependent on the unstable psyche of the man at its center. Insightful and accessible, courageous and controversial, Bush on the Couch tackles the question no one seems willing to ask: Is our president psychologically fit to run the country?

"Is our president psychologically fit to run the country".....means the answer is NO...and then the next question is....doesn't it then become Our RIGHT AND Our DUTY to take action to rectify the situation...??
windbreeze

THIS book, above all others, makes clear that EVERYTHING, bar nothing, Bush says can be taken as either projection or lying. I.e., he is a total stranger to Truth.
I find that I can basically predict his behavior, based on this book's analysis.

That our TV news will be forced to carry it for it's infotainment value, lest they be scooped. Otherwise they'll let him get away with delivering his soundbytes while safely away from scrutiny (I know it's a stretch to believe that the domestic press ever held him very accountable).

Narcissistic, ignorant, spiteful, hate-filled and in the final analysis, a broken human being, like his doppleganger, Ted Bundy. Like Foghorn Leghorn used to say, "that boy ain't right."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

"President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals."

We have a damn schizoid for a president!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

:)

that claims he's had a "nervous breakdown" and it's being kept secret. Of course, you can't put any credence in that kind of "journalism" but still ....

out of his wits by them.

Besides the post-substance abuse (dry drunk) symptoms, he's got a real problem with not getting his own way. He pouts and carries on like the spoiled child he probably was. And now, of course, all he wants is his mama.

Vice President Augustus Gloop.

It is an important and complicated topic!

Of his mental disease

http://www.serendipity.li/bush/madness.htm

King George is Mad -- what to do?