Kerry mentions the Downing Street Minutes on Hardball tonight!

Below,is a portion of the transcript from tonights show and can be found at to the Democratic Daily. blog.thedemocraticdaily.com

KERRY: I personally believe now, the evidence is clear as we’ve looked at any number of things. I mean, it’s amazing to me that the memos from Great Britain (see Kerry’s Downing Street Memo letter), from Prime Minister Blair’s cabinet have not received more analysis here, because they talk about how people within that cabinet believed the intelligence was being shaped to try to fit the mission.

He mentioned Wolfowitz and others as planning Iraq early on because they wanted to control the Middle East.

Have other Dems been that upfront about what this war was really about?

Just like none have ever said that our military is all over the world protecting oil, oil pipelines and oil tanker routes. He exposes the militarism exactly the way the left wants, but they never can seem to hear him.

Kucinich, for another. Not to take anything away from Kerry, but he isn't the only one.

It doesn't seem to get much airplay though, whoever says it, huh.

Heh. Good for Kerry, though. :thumbsup:

Honestly, he SHOULD have been President! Enjoyed watching him on MSNBC & CNN last night.

Hope to see more of him - he speaks truth to mind. Not a phony & anyone with even half a mind can tell Kerry "is" for all Americans, not corporate America.

:kick:

It was really exciting.

Feingold didn't say "mislead," he said "propaganda."

Which word, honestly, is more accurate.

Why can't Kerry just admit how he truly feels?

But listen to what Kerry did say. He makes a very good case, letting facts make the case. (as does Feingold.)

Propaganda definitely means a coordinated effort on purpose.

Totally different meanings. We all know which one is more correct.

I like Kerry, but he is to afraid to just say what he believes.

Kerry went to great pains to specifically state that mislead is correct and it is also not the relevent point. Was the mislead intentional? He believes it was and that is a whole new ballgame.

Russ Feingold and John Kerry are not in competition here. Neither of these men are in competition with Cong. Murtha either. They are all starting to get on the same page and we are starting to see Democratic unity which might actually bring about a change in policy by the ones who hold the actual power. (None of these Dems can affect change by themselves. This is a sad but true fact. A Kerry or a Feingold or a Murtha working alone is useless and can be safely ignored. When they work together and reinforce each others views, then they start to from a united Democratic front that can help to push the Admin to make changes.)

The difference between propaganda and mislead in the context both men used it is irrelevent. (I think Cong. Murtha also emphasized that the Admin is doing nothing that would indicate they have learned anything from this misadventure in Iraq. Go get 'em Congressman. I have some problems with his plan, but these tweaks can be worked out. I have no problem with your heart, passion and resolve to get America out of this horrible mis-adventure.)

that there is a difference between being wrong and knowingly saying things that were untrue. He then cited some very clear cut examples where Bush said something and then explained why it is known that they knew at that point that they weren't true.

He made a very strong case that Bush intentionally lied - which is better than screaming Bush is a liar. Kerry's words were precise - this is a very good former Prosecutor.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Mislead

1. To lead in the wrong direction.
2. To lead into error of thought or action, especially by intentionally deceiving. See Synonyms at deceive.

neither word is more or less accurate, they describe two different aspects of the same thing.

Sure thanks kerry, now you say something. I recall when the DSM came out he said nothing. Then after the blogoshere pushed the issue, he said he was going to raise the issue in the senate, then wimped out. I think he gathered some signatures or something?

Clearly if Kerry wants media attention, if he wants to say something...they listen. So where the FU** was he during the election fraud? Then his staff calls Mark Crispin Miller a liar! Where the Fu** has he been during every important issue that has come out.

If he wants to be a hero now, give us the whole damn truth NOW! Quit pretending the Iraq had real elections. Quit pretending that there is any chance of progress in Iraq. He is still part of the bullshit himself so I can't imagine why any DUer would hail him a hero.

THE DSM IN HIS LETTER TO THE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE asking for phase 2 of the Iraqi war investigations. Go to his web sit for the Senate both is letter-in which he brings up these letters - and the reply to his request are posted there. PLEASE DO NOT CLAIM TO KNOW SOMETHING WHEN YOU DO NOT. You may not like Kerry's position on the war, but that does not give you the right to discredit all his hard work on all of our behalf's.
Also, I noticed most of your post is extremely inacurate. I would suggest you actually do some research and come to your own conclusions rather than do a poor job spouting Rovian remarks. Everything you mention can be challanged and discredited if you took the little bit of time it would take to get to the truth.

to counter Roberts claims that they were already doing Part 2 - as his letter to Kerry in response said they weren't going to.

Whether you think it or not MCM did not prove they stold the election - he like others show there was a lot of fraud and votr suppression. Kerry should not claim anything on this he can't prove in a court of law.