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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:52 PM
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Political stunt on the horizon: an Iraq pull-out by Fall 2006.
Swami says: I think this administration will start a "pull-out" in the fall in order to assuage public grief over the Iraq War.

I get that feeling. That or Piggly Wiggly Karl will try to wiggle his piggle out of the Iraqi poke and evade further public scrutiny.

But the public WILL scrutinize. And that will be Karl's downfall. This pig ain't as bright as he thinks.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:53 PM
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1. bush doesnt pull out he is wrong. does pull out, lost war and dems
made him do it. it is lose lose for bush
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:56 PM
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3. Oh so true. It's a death trap because if we pull out and lose (which just
avoid losing in the long run) we can point out how many lives, how much of our money, and how much of the Iraq nation was destroyed on the neocon need to try to control the world. If we stay and keep losing troops and having to pony up billions, another win for our side.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:09 PM
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10. absofuckinglutely... lose lose... big fucking looser!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:54 PM
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2. And a "victory" parade
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 10:55 PM by bluestateguy
Lots of troops, flags, TV crews. It will be held in October in a major city with a hot senate race. St Louis? Philadelphia? Cincinnati?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:56 PM
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4. FUCK A STUNT! JUST GET THE GI'S THE FUCK OUT OF IRAQ!
I do not care who takes credit, or who does whatever the fuck! Just get them out!
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:00 PM
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5. Yes yes yes!
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 11:01 PM by gordianot
That would prove it Murtha was a messenger. Already Bush has changed his tone saying Mr. Murtha has a right to disagree. Who wants to speculate that a message was sent by the Pentagon by way of Mr. Murtha? (Other than little Timmy Russert)
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Yoda Yada Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:03 PM
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6. Didn't Murtha say that?
It seems like Murtha was on every morning show today, but I think he said to Tim Russert (or was it Wolf?) that he thought that the troops would be out by next year...2006. Then he was asked if he thought it would be right before the November election, and he said (paraphrasing) you can count on it. (He was implying that the Republicans would USE IT to boost their ratings before the election.)

Did anyone else see this?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:07 PM
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7. How many lives and how many billions of dollars and how many lies
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 11:08 PM by lonestarnot
to late for that? They have been exposed! Have no fear about 2006 an Fitz is not done playing ball yet either!
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:07 PM
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8. Yes he said that to Russert.
Ruseert asked if by the election in 2006 if I recall correctly Murtha smiled he did agree to 2006. About that time he asked Mr. Murtha about his contacts in the Pentagon. Bush also comes out with some kind words about Mr. Murtha's right to disagree.


Curious isn't it?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:08 PM
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9. Curious is about all.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:15 AM
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13. "You hit the nail on the head" is what he said to Tim Russert.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:19 PM
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11. The Dems will *not* let anybody forget.
Who was it that forced the administration to get out of Iraq? The "stay-the-course" Repugs?? NOT!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:13 AM
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12. "But the public WILL scrutinize"
The majority of the public will only scrutinize if the MSM allows it to i.e. actually REPORTING the news.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:27 AM
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14. The public has its own mind.
If we are to believe that adults can contextualize sex or violence on television, the we should believe that adults can contextualize a political stunt... look at those poll numbers now that the fear factor is wearing thin.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:54 AM
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15. don't worry . . . even if they do decide to pull out . . .
you can bet this winter's heating bill that they'll completely fuck it up . . .
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 05:33 AM
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16. Absolutely...Makes good political sense to me...
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 05:40 AM by LaPera
The republicans are not stupid...They have to hold to the House's, a Bush/Cheney/Rove MUST! Nothing will be more helpful, than to supposedly bring home the troops for the republicans.

And after the election Bush will then be safe from proscution...And he can always find a reason to increase the troop strength again, back to where it is now...

Nothing is too great a sacrifice, to make sure BushCo is not prosecuted and able to continue to carry out the republican corporate fascist ideology and agenda...

Imperialism, (privatization) Social Security, environmental destruction for corporate interest, etc. (They know nothing else).

It won't & can't be done if they lose either houses'''and the ultimate republican goal is to keep their greedy agenda moving forward.

And since nothing has really been accomplished, watch the electronic voting machines do their "magic" much to our dismay... No one has stopped them, not yet...

After the elections it'll be too late....AGAIN!
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 05:35 AM
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17. Yeah, our troops have become hostages in a way, so it would be
appropriate to do a Regean. Probably total pullout (or the lie of one) on Veterans Day.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 05:37 AM
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18. Gee - just in time for mid-term elections...
I'm soooooooooo surprised... (NOT)
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 07:50 AM
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19. Murpha is supposedly giving a speech
about the war sometime this morning.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:14 AM
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20. sorry, make that Murtha not Murpha...
It's to early in he morning.
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