Why aren't conservatives insisting on a Draft?

Is it because the cowardly bastards at places like free republic don't want to put their asses where their mouths are? I would think a true redblooded flag waving American would stampede the army recruiting office to help his president. Lacking that, they would insist on a draft to supply the manpower for their failed war. Hell, the average deaths in Iraq now are just over three a day. Fuck that conservatives. If you really wanna be happy get that death rate jacked up. Show every body what you are made of. Die for your country. Death, destruction, despair and lies - the cornerstones of conservatives values.

Caveat: At 18 I joined the Navy and volunteered for Vietnam. I didn't go to NAM but I served and chickenhawk conservative scum in this country have me anxious to play the Vet card at every opportunity.

The job of a servicemember is to support and defend the constitution, not to be used as political tools by selfish bastards.

Draft would be a disaster!
-- It would put off any limits on militarization.
-- The only reason why losses in Iraq and Afghanistan are relatively low is professional training of the troops. With non-professionals, losses will skyrocket.
-- Or maybe you are looking for the ways to win in Iraq?

in other words, I'm surprised conservatives haven't called for it. They are selfish bastards who won't fight for what they believe in. I believe there is no way for us to "win" in Iraq. shiites and sunnis will hate each for thousands of more years regardless of what we do. We should get out now before more of our kids die.

Are you confusing conservatives with NeoCons? Most conservatives don't like the war either. They want to get out too.

If (non-neo) conservatives don't like the direction the neos have taken their movement then they shout it loud and clear and do something about it. I hear that alot that there is a distinction between neos and cons but there is only one side I ever hear. I totally disagree with the neos but they are quite loud and rowdy with their agenda push.

"If (non-neo) conservatives don't like the direction the neos have taken their movement then they shout it loud and clear and do something about it."

I guess they can't complain too much about Bush's policies, can they? They laid down with dogs and woke up with fleas.

The draft is a terrible disaster in all respects, Rumsfeld is 100% right to oppose it.

Idiot Michael Moore had some discussion of the draft in his movie. It could not be more unfortunate!

draftees were - draftees who went to Vietnam and Korea, draftees who won WW2.

The ONLY reason the "professional" army is preferred, is that it gives the brass and civilian command structure the fall-back line of "they volunteered for it".

It's a matter of control, not of capability. The post-vietnam spin was that we lost because the draftees weren't willing to fight, hence the out-of-control drug and alcohol abuse over there. That's just bullshit. The troops knew they were in a war that was not necessary, a war that would not change the eventual outcome of the conflict, a war that the govenment lied about to excuse our involvement in. American draftees have acted with valor and dedication in wars they believed to be just.

The chickenhawks don't want draftees fighting this war because they know it is not a just or necessary war. As for the volunteers, well, fuck them, they knew what they were getting into when they volunteered. (Not MY belief, but that of the chickenhawks.)

should offer legislation calling for a draft. I don't mean one or two democrats but a united effort with every democrat supporting a draft. Our troups will be out of Iraq quicker than Bush can say "Weapons of Mass Destruction" after a fifth of whiskey and gram of cocaine

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their kids to go. That's for those peoples children.

if they are going to keep our troops over there, the only way to really complete the mission will be to get more troops over there.

But they won't call for a draft. They are too cowardly.

Chances are, they are waiting for a Democrat to finally say, "Look, if you are gonna keep our guys over there and at risk, we need more troops" so that they can demonize Dems.

their belief system that says basically, well, there are some people who are much better-suited to defending the homefront and fighting the culture wars and the media wars(i.e. college republicans, by virture of their education, superior intellect and class).

And then there are the other people who are better-suited to do the actual physical fighting, but because they're all on the same "team" the cowards profess that they are, in fact, on the front lines of the war, just in a different way.

Interestingly enough, this is a twisted communistic type of rationale--each to his own, according to his need, according to his ability.

They'll buy a Support the Troops magnet made in China for 99 cents but when it comes to donating money to their local Guard unit to buy body armor, or going to the VA Hospital to volunteer, guess what? They're nowhere to be seen. Not everyone can enlist and serve in the military, but EVERYONE can truly support the troops.

Our National Guard Unit did 13 months in Iraq. When they came back my wife and I took a large screen TV and a stereo system up to the armory. Youda thought we gave them each a million bucks. And volunteering at a VA Hospital is an incredibly rewarding experience. There is so much value in pushing a veteran in a wheelchair down to get an x-ray or other procedure; or to play cards with a vet with no legs; or to plot blood pressure on a ward chart; or to help them comb their hair or shave their face. Now, that's supporting the troops.

Our National Guard Unit did 13 months in Iraq. When they came back my wife and I took a large screen TV and a stereo system up to the armory. Youda thought we gave them each a million bucks. And volunteering at a VA Hospital is an incredibly rewarding experience. There is so much value in pushing a veteran in a wheelchair down to get an x-ray or other procedure; or to play cards with a vet with no legs; or to plot blood pressure on a ward chart; or to help them comb their hair or shave their face. Now, that's supporting the troops.

fight the war they started

Let's face it: some people are incredibly self centered and wouldn't acknowledge that there's a problem in Iraq unless it affected them. If the neocons did this, those same self centered people would be horrified to have their children sent to die and the neocons would lose votes. When it comes down to it, they're just politicians who need votes to survive.

the trully blinded.....I guess they figure they can get enough holier than thou soldiers to fight what many describe to be a crusade....

If they only knew how they were being used by the true corporate powers that be...the ones who really benefit from this faux war on terror...

They don't want to take the chance that a draft would not limit itself to just those wishing to fight a holy war...

Which is of course what the prez pushed it as, you know, when he stated that he knew God wanted him to invade iraq...

He thinks it would make politicians less likely to go into war frivilously.

That's who we should listen to right now.

Cheney doesnt make money with a well organized military. doh!

occured right here in GD.

Some folks think that we should draft boys, send them to war and get them killed...so that everyone will realize that sending boys to war and getting them killed is bad.

Go figure..

(on edit: I see some calls for it already in this thread (!!))