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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:19 PM
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WaPo: Voters Moved by Murtha, Not Necessarily His Views
JOHNSTOWN, Pa., Nov. 21-- At Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 155 -- the one with "VFW" spelled four feet high outside in red, white and blue neon -- Dick Cobaugh turned away from the Steelers game to explain why withdrawing troops from Iraq was both right and completely wrong.

First, he said he agreed with his hometown congressman, John P. Murtha (D), that the Iraq conflict has become an unwinnable quagmire. "You don't know who the enemy is," Cobaugh said, recalling Vietnam, where both he and Murtha served.

But, Cobaugh said, if troops do leave Iraq, "the message is, we're weak."

Which led him, in the space of just a few football plays over the weekend, suddenly to sound more like President Bush: "I'm not saying we should stay there forever. But we should stay the course."

Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/21/AR2005112101339.html
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This is an excellent, insightful piece on the reaction to Representative Murtha's speech from his consituents.



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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:25 PM
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1. Sorry- don't trust the Post
They proven time and again to have ZERO credibility on this issue. They pick and choose who and what they quote- they'll take things out of context and they constantly slant their copy to support their owners' and editors' preconceived agendas.

Ain't buyin' anything they're selling.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:31 PM
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2. Yeah, like that one that
said.."stay the course"..yeah, right. Like we're suppose to believe any newspaper that has had the track record of the washedout post has ..the last few bush boot licking years.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:42 PM
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4. They were dead wrong in supporting Bush on this war, and
this situation with Bob Woodward (and their continued support of him) certainly has hurt their credibility, no question about that, but this particular story struck me as fair and balanced (pardon the phraseology, please.)

The Post has done some fine reporting recently (e.g., Dana Priest's pieces on the CIA's foreign detention centers), and most of their columnists (Gene Robinson, E.J. Dionne, Ann Applebaum, Courtland Milloy, etc.) have spoken out forcefully against this Administration, and I commend them for it.

I would definitely agree with you that the Post's editorial board has leaned more to the right in recent years, and I suspect that if Mrs. Graham were still alive, that wouldn't be the case.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:34 PM
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3. That last quote
"What's that going to solve right now?" she asked of the pullout plan.

It will solve the problem of killed and injured soldiers. It will solve some economic problems.
It will bring our soldiers home so they can defend the US.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:51 PM
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5. What the hell does staying there solve?
What is it going to prove? That we are willing to commit to a mistake beyond all hope so that we don't end up wounding our national ego?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:57 PM
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6. It solves a problem the Republicans have been working on for a
long time: how to bring America to its knees.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 11:58 PM
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7. You're right. I forgot about "starve the beast"
Crazy bastards.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:01 AM
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8. If they get their way, we will have no other
choice but to scrap the New Deal.
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