Ohio's vote goes funny again. Polls showed major support but election

reform issues lose big. And the media is not saying shit.


http://commonwonders.com/


“One problem discovered Tuesday: Some machines began registering votes for the wrong item when voters touched the screen correctly,” wrote Jim Bebbington in the Daily News. “Those machines had lost their calibration during shipping or installation and had to be recalibrated.”

So the voting machines got dropped when they where shipped so once again
a machine error helps the republican side? Columbus, OH elected all dems officials
yet the same people turned around and voted against election reform @ better then
2 to 1?

Please pass this story on to your friends and to any reporters you know ....
Until we clean up the vote NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

When will Ohioans stand up and demand accountability?

C'mon, I grew up there. I remember Ohioans being skeptical. Get up!

regarding Diebold, ES&S , Triad and Sequoia I will hold them equally responsible and complicit in this shadow government effort.The Illusion of Choice continues.

One of which was that voters who were polled thought they could support it until they got in the voting booth and actually read the ballot language, which was complex and difficult to understand. Combined with the fact that supporters were asking voters to support 4 complex initiatives together was a killer.

RON also ran a negative campaign - something you NEVER do when trying to get a "ballot issue" passed.

massive error in the polls. I canvassed for RON and got good responses .....
when I saw the voting from the precinct that I canvassed it just floored me.

The "poll" that at least some here are citing was done days before the actual election and was a statistically small sampling. Also, it was a mail-in poll...

...they made a good point: Wouldn't you EXPECT the results of a mail-in poll to favor mail-in voting? Might the people who responded to a mail-in poll to support mail-in voting not show up at polls?


If the conjecture that the voting system is being purposefully manipulated is true, how do we WIN some elections? Just because we lose a few doesn't mean they're all rigged.

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Some of the measures that "lost" were ahead by 2-1,
and supposedly lost by almost 2-1.

We have to find a way to win the Presidency without Ohio or Florida.

While I firmly believe that there have been major voting irregularities in Ohio, I also think that the RON Amendments legitimately lost.

The language was too confusing to read thoroughly and understand while standing in a voting booth. When in doubt people tend to vote 'no'.

It was easier to explain why to vote 'no'. For example, the anti-RON groups talking points were simple, "We'll have an extra layer of bureaucracy that we can never choose," or "We want freedom to make our own decisions." Our side had to give a lengthy explanation of how the non-partisan committee would be chosen, or how corporate donations are corrupting our system.

Most important was the anti-RON media and calling push the week before the election. Whoever came up with their angle was damn clever. (And I hate to admit that.) They claimed that groups from out-of-state were pushing the RON Amendments, but Ohio leaders and newspapers were against them. Of course, our leaders primarily Republican, as are our papers. After 2004 there are a lot of Ohioans that sick of people coming in to the state and telling us how to run things.

Bottom line, have there been voting problems in Ohio? YES! Did RON lose big? YES!