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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:54 AM
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Russ Feingold on ABC's This Week
First time I've seen/heard him and I'm very impressed with his charming honesty and intelligence. WOW, he's on my short list for '08 now !!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:03 PM
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1. He's pretty high on my list now too.
He was quite impressive this morning. And he doesn't run from the "liberal" label like some other Democrats do. He certainly has more going for him because of his NO votes on Iraq and the Patriot Act.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:10 PM
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20. Very impressive !
Thanks to DU, I've never heard his name before, much less know anything about him here in Virginny. But I've always noticed his supporters here on the DU, and they piqued my interest, because they were polite to other candidate supporters as well. That tells me even more about Russ Feingold!

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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:50 PM
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36. I'm in California but watching Feingold ever since the Patriot Act
was passed, the war against Iraq, watching him on committees, and then finally one day during the heat of the 2004 presidential campaign - just before election - C-Span was broadcasting radio shows around the country and Feingold was on with what's his name, his friend from the Nation Magazine, (i'm sorry, the name on the tip of fingers but can't think of it right now) anyway, Feingold really wowed me then, and at that moment really wished that he was our candidate instead of Kerry, just because he was so damn clear on the issues especially with regard to the Iraq war, and the Patriot Act.

He really blew me away... so, I'm hoping that the Party won't succeed in intimidating him, pressuring him to step away from the notion of running.

For me there's no reason on earth why the president should have to be married, or religious to be considered a "viable/electable" candidate.





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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:08 PM
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2. I really like Feingold
He is very good at making points in short form without making them sound stupid. And he has been on the right side of most things.

I don't want to discuss him as a potential 08 candidate, though, because I think what he says is more important than horse race politics.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:18 PM
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21. I think he pretty much confirmed his
intentions that he's a definite 2008 maybe! I understand your concern, and agree, it's too early, but I'm watching him with hopes he stays true to his convictions without all the Professional Candidate Blah-Blah-Blah...heh...:hi:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:27 PM
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3. I like him alot
Interesting guy. I like how he makes his decisions on merit, not just ideology. He's smart and pragmatic.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:20 PM
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22. Definitely Agree !!!
It was a refreshing interview, fer shure :)
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:32 PM
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4. Russ has a promising future, for sure ...
I volunteered on his Senate campaign when I was at the U of WI in 95/96. Excellent man. Down to earth. Pretty much on the progressive side of the fence.

But the pro-Ashcroft vote might ding his credibility just a lil' bit.
Maybe.


:hippie:
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:12 PM
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5. I really like him. But, potential problem that media will go after:
I heard that he is divorced more than once. Thats all the hyenas will talk about.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:32 PM
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6. NeoCON Rifle Association appeaser Voted for John AssKKKrack
If he can't stand up to John AssKKKrack and Wayne LaPierre, I have no use for this pink tutu DINO.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:08 PM
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7. This is asinine - Feingold is one of the most independent liberal
members of the Senate. There is not ONE Senator you can find who you would agree with on everything.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:20 PM
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9. He voted for John AssKKKrack
Feingold sucked up to the NRA. I'll vote for McCain before this DINO.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:28 PM
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12. You'll vote for McCain?
You would choose a man who microwaved his own brain in order to become one of Bush's lapdogs over a man that voted against PATRIOT and IWR?

:puke:
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:03 PM
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38. If he's such a liberal hero, why did he vote for AssKKKrack?
Hillary voted against this known fascist pig.

Know your enemies.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:36 PM
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39. Hillary voted for war, while Russ voted against it!
Hillary's vote led to the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, according to the Lancet Report, while Russ vote for Ashcroft was in line with his maverick reputation. Russ doesn't take polls or relies on focus groups to find out how he is going to vote on any given issue. This is something that is well understood by Feingold supporters. Sometimes Russ will vote in ways that one does not agree with, but no one can accuse Russ of intellectual dishonesty.

Compare Feingold's vote against the war and PATRIOT to such Democratic stalwarts such as Hillary or Kerry.

Democrats who voted for Ashcroft were Sens. John Breaux of Louisiana, Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia, Kent Conrad and Byron Dorgan of North Dakota, Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Zell Miller of Georgia and Ben Nelson of Nebraska.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/2001news/2_2_w2.htm


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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:52 AM
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46. In addition to Ashcroft, Feingold was a major Roberts apologist who voted
Roberts out of committee.

I no longer feel that Feingold shares my values. While I won't vote for McCain, I surely hope we can do better than Feingold as our nominee and I'll be working as hard as I can to see that we do.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:09 PM
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14. He was also the only one who voted AGAINST the Patriot Act
Some people are REAL people and are more complex to understand than Bush. These are the people I will support, not the puppets who think there is only one way of thinking or those who think they can change their mind every time the wind changes.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:11 PM
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16. If he's a pro gun rights Democrat he has a fighting chance of winning

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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:12 PM
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17. DINO?????
Go read his record.....OMG??? :wtf:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:04 PM
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27. brilliant analysis
:eyes:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:59 PM
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34. McCain? You can't be serious?
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:24 PM
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41. That's great, buddy.
If you feel that way, why don't you go register with the Republicans and participate at a Republican message board.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:31 PM
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42. That has to mean you are really not a liberal yourself
McCain is very conservative, while Feingold is a liberal. He voted for Ashcroft because he thinks Presidents, except in extreme circumstances should get the cabinet they want. I bet McCain voted for him too - and from AZ, McCain likely has a higher score from NRA
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:06 PM
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13. Certainly not a DINO - This is totally idiotic.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:15 PM
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18. Are you a Republican Bill?


I always wonder because you always are beating the gun control drum.
I have always wondered if you are a Freeper in disguise trying to maker sure that the Dems stick with the losing issue gun control, but being so "one issue". After all it is a LOSER issue for our party, so as long as we are seen as the party of anti freedom by enough of a margin the GOP wins.

So if a candidate was anti gun control but pro national health insurance would you vote against him??
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:57 PM
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37. I don't think it's a losing issue, but one of integrity.
If we sold sensible gun control instead of being scared of these NRA thugs we could put the Repubs away for good. Remember Karl Rove's strategy of attacking the enemies strenght. If we would have stood up to the gun nuts crazy ideas this guy wouldn't be in power.


I will work against any pro NRA candidate.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:15 AM
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44. Feingold is for sensible gun control...
he voted for the "Assault Weapons" ban but after it didn't show any results, he changed his position in line with the evidence. That is sensible.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:27 PM
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24. Your concern is understandable....
..it would be the details of those divorces that would hurt him....did he beat his wives? Stuff like that? So far, the GOP can be beaten at this game: Guiliani, Reagan, McCain...????
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:17 PM
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8. Is this archived anywhere or is there a repeat broadcast? n/t
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 02:19 PM by radio4progressives
on edit: i forgot to mention that I really like him, even though I did not agree with his Roberts and Bankruptcy vote, i think he's one of the few who is solid on vital issues that confront democracy.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:27 PM
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11. VIDEO
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:32 PM
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25. Thanks liveoaktx....
Sidebar: We really need to put yours and others' videos/transcripts in the Research Forum!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x781

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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:39 PM
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35. Excellent Interview! Thanks for providing this link.. I really dig
Feingold. I hear his message, it is strong and it is clearly spoken.

I'm really glad that a Democrat spoke out against Nafta, GATT, the Serbian/Bosnian/Kosovo War, the Patriot Act - and made the clear distinction about what is in America's National Security interest.

I give him huge credit for openly criticizing the DP where appropriate in public fora, and only to a certain extent. He didn't do what I would do in other words ;) but he did what I would look for in a "Leader of the Free World". He has some notion of what it means to usher in brevity, and levity and not throw around highly provocative, but phony slogans whether it's about the "Values" issue, or about National Security and the so called war on "terra".

I'm thrilled to hear him unapologetically speak to the SCOTUS confirmation issues, including Filibustering option if necessary. I'm really happy that he voiced his unhappiness with what the so called "gang of 14" did - I'm glad he praised the Dem's for their recent demonstration of strength, but appropriately voiced his displeasure at the party's demonstration of weakness for the past several years, and the dumbing down of policy matters.

If the party could not find any person of color, which is close to Feingold's political views and is able to stand firm in the face of attacks for not "going along to get along" and the implied prevailing assumptions, then I think Feingold is the person I would want to throw my support to and would work hard to see his nomination prevail, because Feingold represents the kind of distinction between the two parties that should be represented by the party leadership, but unfortunately is woefully lacking.

Go Feingold!





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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:01 PM
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40. Thanks for posting that. Very impressive. n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:07 PM
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28. yeah it's tough to find someone you agree with
100 percent of the time, if not downright impossible. I don't agree with those votes either, but he's overall very progressive. So you and I would agree that while he isn't perfect he is still one of the good ones. He's definitely solid, you hit that dead on.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:22 PM
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10. He is great! It is too bad that he would likely
have a serious uphill battle in an election. Being twice divorced really scares some people. Anti-semitism is alive and well, and wether or not people admit it, I am sure that would make many people vote against him. I wish he was from a red state we could flip too. Alas, I would definitely work for him if he was nominated.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:41 PM
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26. Great points....
and why we have to pay attention to the political barometer in the next few "road to the white house" years.

I think the DU Gang/Members has it's work cut out for them too ? Just saying, it can get pretty divisive here too.

Therefore, I choose to be inspired, now, by all our prez-hopefuls!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:12 PM
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29. you know they are all pretty good
just like last time I thought all the candidates were pretty good. Sure, Leiberman is frustrating, of course, but he's ok. Much better than most 'Pubs if not all. It does get nasty and divisive here. I just do my best to weed out the candidates until I find the one who I like the most and who I find suits my preferences the best. That doesn't mean that I don't like any of the others. It's not like because I am a DK voter I have to have hatred for John Kerry, Wes Clark, Howard Dean etc. They are all good too, I just preferred Kucinich. I get really disappointed with the divisiveness around here sometimes.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:18 PM
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30. I do love them all.....
But we need to ask ourselves, "Can they win" ? Can they unite our country?

I am "vexed" :)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:36 PM
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31. I never ask myself "can they win?"
I just vote with my heart and let the rest sort itself out. If my guy, or woman, doesn't make it out of the primaries then you damn well bet I'm going to vote for the Dem that does. Because there is too much riding on the outcome. Not just on the sexy issues like the Iraq War, but on seemingly little things such as student loans, Pell Grants, or as we witnessed with the Katrina aftermath, disaster preparedness. The current batch of Republicans revile government unless they can use it for benefitting their friends and themselves. That's why they cut student loans, yet install cronies like Brownie in important positions that they don't belong in. Any Dem candidate would not do something so foolish. Not that we don't have cronies, we do, but we don't have any Brownies that we would put in a position that could cost lives. So I vote my heart and conscience and whatever happens I just roll with it. Come G.E. time I'm ready to vote for even an establishment candidate who is supposedly more "winnable" than the others. :)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:48 AM
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43. Let me rephrase.....:)
75 million voters didn't go to the polls last year, how do we motivate them for 2008?

I want the DNC and DLC to *hear* the beating internet drums, like those on DU, as well as those apatheic voters *feel* the beating of our hearts!

2008 is going to be a doozy of a fight for the Oval Office, for the first time in a long time, no sitting President or Vice President will be running on either side. Stuff political junkies, like moi, live for :D

Of course, I'll support the Dem :hi:

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:09 PM
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15. He is great - At this point, he is very high in my list.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:22 PM
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19. On Chris Matthews this am they said he is vulnerable to repug attack
because he is twice divorced.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:25 PM
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23. Nowadays being single is a bigger problem than being divorced
Many Americans like having a picture perfect family in the White House. So,assuming his recent divorce was not too messy which I honestly don't know anything about,if any of you eligible Feingold fans can move real quick on this you just might help him get elected. (I know, I know, it sucks that stuff like this, or a person's height, weight, color or gender etc. have anything to do with choosing a leader, and I wrote this at least half tongue in cheek).
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:42 PM
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32. I caught it too--was impressed. nt
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:53 PM
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33. I'm glad to hear that he presented well.
I don't have a short list, but my door is still open for Feingold at this point.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:35 AM
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45. He was good in that interview.
I liked the way he handled questions regarding his being considered to be "more liberal" than Ted Kennedy or whatever. He said that they throw that at him every election, and he still gets elected to the senate. He's quick with answers and can probably debate well.
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