ROVE'S gonna get it...just in from lalarawraw RawStory

Testimony from Rove's former assistant may solidify case that he misled leak inquiry, lawyers say
Jason Leopold and Larisa Alexandrovna
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Testimony_from_Roves_former_assistant_may_1128.html

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will present evidence to a second grand jury this week in his two year-old investigation into the outing of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson that could lead to a criminal indictment being handed up against Karl Rove, President Bush’s deputy chief of staff, attorneys close to the investigation say.

Rove has remained under intense scrutiny because of inconsistencies in his testimony to investigators and the grand jury. According to sources, Rove withheld crucial facts on three separate occasions and allegedly misled investigators about conversations he had with Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper.

The attorneys say that Rove’s former personal assistant, Susan B. Ralston -- who was also a special assistant to President Bush -- testified in August about why Cooper’s call to Rove was not logged. Ralston said it occurred because Cooper had phoned in through the White House switchboard and was then transferred to Rove’s office as opposed to calling Rove’s office directly. As Rove’s assistant, Ralston screened Rove’s calls.

Verrrry interesting.

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Toward the end it mentins that Ralston is the former personal secretary for Jack Abramoff.

If the two were to cross over, oh my my ... We might be able to REALLY clean house!

Fingers totally crossed.

Abramoff is running and hiding, not cooperating, is he?

Of course, I'm on cold medicine so I may not be tracking all that well.

Scanlon isn't doing likewise. Scanlon is cooperating with the prosecutors, if I'm not mistaken. Granted, it's such a multi-headed hydra by now that it's damned hard to keep track of it - without cold medicine or anything else.

...and he made a remark along the lines of Cap Weinberger--if I go down, I'm taking some bastards with me!

And some folks are singing:

WASHINGTON - An ex-aide to former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and partner to a powerful Republican lobbyist pleaded guilty to conspiracy on Monday under a deal in which he is cooperating with prosecutors probing alleged influence-buying involving the lobbyist and lawmakers.

Michael Scanlon, 35, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy in defrauding Indian tribes of millions of dollars and lavishing gifts upon a member of the U.S. Congress.

He was ordered to pay $19.7 million in restitution to the tribes, could serve up to five years in prison and be fined $250,000 and must cooperate with prosecutors.

Scanlon left Delay‘s office and become a partner to wealthy lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who has been indicted for fraud in a separate case in Florida. The plea agreement has been seen as a major advance in prosecutors‘ efforts to investigate alleged influence-buying involving Abramoff, members of Congress and government agencies.


http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-00105618.html

Bet he has a LOT to say, too....!!

haven't read it all yet, but scroll down to "Corruption of Public Officials".

http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/delay/scanlon112105plea.pdf

Lobbyist A and Representative #1 (gee, who could THEY be?!) must be shitting bricks right about now...and Scanlon needs police protection, IMO, just to be sure he can testify fully, when the time comes!

Josh said that his sources were telling him that Abramoff offered to name higher-ups, but the Justice Department didn't want to hear about it. This is perfectly in keeping with Ashcroft's policy of "compartmentalization," which was the euphemism for halting any investigation which got too close to the White House or the GOP slush fund.

When you start looking at how many investigations Ashcroft had to "compartmentalize," things get really, really scary. The financial dealings of the September 11 terrorists springs instantly to mind. Jack and his fellow College Republican buddy Grover Norquist were quite cozy with the General Council of Islamic Banks, for example.

At this point, it's hard to imagine that Abramoff is anything other than a sociopath. If that's the case, he doesn't care any more about his bosses than he does about the Indians he ripped off or the slaves he's created in the Marianas. He'll sing if it will keep him off the hook. The problem is that the prosecutors themselves are likely under direction to make sure he doesn't shake that hook.

Edit: In another thread I provided some links to back up part of what I've said above. Some of you may think I'm taking quite an inductive leap, but the evidence is pretty solid for top-down cover up. I'm not kidding when I say this: I think that the debate over impeachment is going to be quickly replaced by a debate over the death penalty.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1953179#1953466

Abramoff will go to jail, but there's a difference between five years in Club Fed or twenty to thirty hard. If they are willing to take all his money but give him his freedom eventually to get others, he'd be crazy not to take the deal. Then again, if he is implicated in that SunCruz murder down in FL, he's better off keeping his mouth shut and taking his lumps, unless he can get the prosecutors to overlook that (and that's unlikely as hell--Whitey Bulger and John Gotti's #2 went a fair way to ruining those sorts of deals for everyone!). OTOH, if they have him dead to rights on that hit, and it is a death penalty case, it's amazing how some might sing to save their own sorry lives....

made sure he gave to both parties, (but more to the Pukes) to implicate all concerned. These guys are experts when hushing the power to buy judges and the best attorneys money can buy.

Now the puppet masters will be cutting strings, saying goodbye to bad rubbish and trot out the new models. I do think we have already been getting a look at them since Hagel started voicing criticism of the bush/Cheney junta.

Pump money into 'reformers' and the game goes on.

Our job: BE THE MEDIA. Shed lots of light on Dark Horses. Expose connections before puppets get elected.

we MUST punch lots of holes. It's very easy to say that, and then leave it at that. However, if you look a little deeper into how much, proportionately, Kenny-boy gave to republi-CONS versus Democrats, you'll find the comparison one roughly equivalent to comparing a grain of aquarium gravel with a brick. He gave MANY TIMES MORE to GOP people than he ever did to Dems. When bush pointed that out in connection with what Kenny-boy donated to his gubernatorial campaign versus what he donated to Ann Richards' reelection campaign, it was a lopsided three or four TIMES as much given to bush. In the same campaign season, he gave Richards three or four thousand dollars max, (I forget which) whereas he gave TWELVE THOUSAND dollars to bush. And we don't even know what other kinds of "currency" he may have kicked in, too, to the bush campaign. For example, during Campaign 2000, Kenny-boy gave his boy george money, AND the use of his Enron corporate jet to fly around in while he was out stumping around the country. To look at mere numbers of dollars, per se, and call it a day in that case is only telling half the story. Unfortunately, our media got off the train at the first stop, mentioning only that Enron gave to Dems as well as republi-CONS, and just let it stand at that, without getting into details that tell a clearer and more accurate picture about bias and greasing wheels and preference and buying favors.

whores that was well connected with the White House. And if the truth were indeed known, these same media culprits were having lunch with Ken Lay at Jack Abramoff's restaurant.

In the old days I wonder if Meyer Lansky was greasing the Democratic party? We know that Lansky had a lock on the repukes.

Rove makes my skin crawl. Won't the community at large be safer with him behind bars?

I pray to God that this takes down Rove and that the incompetant curr, George W. Bush, is implicated as well.

I will not stand for this jackass as my Lt. Gov.
I hate his smarmy face. I want his smug ass taken down and I mean bigtime! My fondest wish is to see his baby face peering out from behind bars!

Don't know if you're old enough to remember when the smarmy Osmond Brothers lookalike with the big record company and money machine and wrong-wing behind-the-scenes maneuverings ran for, and won, the lieutenant governor position, second in command to our California governor, Jerry Brown. Brown was a liberal Dem and won reelection, himself, in that one. But Mike Curb wound up winning, too, and used to have his official lieutenant governor's limousine speeding at 90 miles per hour from San Francisco back to Sacramento when Jerry Brown would leave town, so he could sneak in behind Brown's back and make appointments as radical-wrong as he himself was. Fortunately he didn't get very far. And he, too, had one of those nice, clean-cut, apple-cheeked, Up-with-People "innocent" faces, too.

HORRIBLE man. Truly neanderthal. Sneaky little shit, too. VERY savvy about media manipulation, though. I got to be friends with a guy who helped run his media campaign, and he showed me stuff they actually did to manufacture favorable coverage. He was into printing and word processing and newsletter publishing, so he had his own photo shop, and he'd take a photo of this crummy little sparsely-attended beach rally behind Curb and crop it just so. Instead of seeing the beach virtually vacant with a straggling handful of Curb followers, you saw this long, narrow photo of Curb with what APPEARED to be an almost never-ending trail of supporters following him down the beach like rats after the Pied Piper. The shrewd cropping made it look like Curb had led this VERY long parade of followers along the beach, making it appear that he had legions of followers who'd packed this campaign event. In actuality, however, it was a sparse little trail of stragglers. It was just how it was photographed and then cropped. And of course, my friend had been at the rally, supervising the crowd placement, too. My friend was into the same kind of media manipulation that kkkarl rove is famous for. I see a lot of the same tricks, manipulations, innuendos, false fronts, and distortions of truth. "Antics with semantics" is what he used to call them. And that's what he never once hesitated to play. And he helped Curb win that one. :puke:

thingie.

You may get your wish, only time will tell.

I read a Jay Bookman column about him not long ago, but that's about all I've seen in the AJC.

My family has nothing to say about Reed nowadays, which isn't normally the case.

they are bound, damned and determined to take Ralphie boy down! For a while there, every day on the front page you would find another article about his involvement in this scandal. The races have gotten eerily quiet here in GA (all of them), but the Repubs in the state house and senate are lining up behind the other GOP guy running against him. I think they know the axe is coming for RR. Even that hideous Sadie Fields has shut up!

I said last November that we just needed to wait and give them enough rope and sure enough they've proven me right.

My dear dad is a Republican fundie who drank watered-down Kool-Aid, meaning that while he accepted a lot of their shit, he's smart enough to know that it still smelled bad. He listens to me now, although he won't admit I'm right (maybe it's a parent-child thing).

Hope married life is agreeing with you!

combined. Reed is on a track to become the first Evangelical President and if someone can take him down that would be music to my ears. This is one scary man, a Religious Zealot in the highest level of Politics.

..the one with Billy Joe Armstrong(Green Day) on the front and it gave kudos to the blogosphere.."Raw Story, Huffingtonpost, and The Washington Note" in particular, "for scooping the mainstream media on Plamegate".

Interesting stuff! I was looking for a mention of DU, but just those 3 were named specifically.

to remember that).

Rock on lalarawraw and the rest of the crew. Where is MSM (or CM as I like to call them). They're sitting this decade out.

Raw Story is also a great source of coverage of election fraud. A story nobody wants to take on. Even Mother Jones and Salon are wimping out big time on that one. Not Raw Story.

Thanks lalarawraw and all the Raw Story reporters.

There's a brand new dance with a brand new angle

Everybody's doing it, they call it The Dangle

Put a rope round your neck, and stand on a chair

Kick it away and you're dancing on air

Do The Dangle baby

Everybody get up and SWING!

(Maybe we should take up a collection to send all of these lying, corrupt fascists their own nooses.)

We Brits say, "handed to" or "handed down to", but never "handed up to", no matter how augsut the recipient. Or would that be the Accused's lawyer spinning it as best he could?

referred to both ways here in the U.S. I thought that to "hand up" an indictment meant the act of the grand jury foreperson literally handing up the indictment to the judge on the bench, while "handed down" signified the judge delivering it to the magistrate to enter into the public record. Can anyone with more knowledge of this clarify?

They've been using "handed up" in terms of indictments throughout this whole affair.

propensity for their villainy, and am also evidently too anxious that we let them get away with too much.

on CNN said in so many words last week that Rove is now working on wiping out the Democrats in 05. We all know what he's capable of, so let's hope he goes down, and soon!

..on the Situation Room.

Talking about Rove

:rofl: Ass wipes at CNN...cable news has a collective audience of about 3.0 million viewers when you roll up Faux, C/MSNBC, and CNN. Three million, let's see. That's Chicago, a great city, on a Saturday, actual count. What losers. All that time to build an audience and they are pathetic losers in the one area that counts to them, viewers.

Could it be that their problems is THEY DON'T COVER THE NEWS!!!

I'm tired of waiting for these idiots to make a dent. They should just shut these channels down and run "Paid Programming" all day. At least we'd learn something. And as a proud owner of Ron Popiel's Rotisserie Oven, I can say that there is more truth in advertising on Paid Programming than there is on the DAMN cable news channels.

...the next time Rove has to testify, he has to be transported to the court by the sherrif.

When Rove is transported to the court by the sherrif, he runs into Bush and Cheney on the same bus. Then the whole country has won. But I'll gladly take your version.

I remain incredulous that Gonzales hasn't intervened to put a tighter rope on the special prosecutor. Perhaps * told Gonzales that he doesn't want any "illegal activity" to besmirch his "legacy."

Here's a website which every member of the cabal needs to read:

http://www.republicansforhumility.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/24/AR2005072401058.html

Gonzales said yesterday on "Fox News Sunday" that he is among the group of top current and former Bush administration officials who have testified to the grand jury about the unmasking of Valerie Plame, a CIA operative. Gonzales, who has recused himself from the case, would not discuss details of his testimony but said he learned about Plame's work from newspaper accounts.

When the final story is told, I suspect we'll find out that Gonzo knew all about Fitzgerald when the appointment was made; namely that Fitz was a bright, relentless guy who would hang in there until he bagged the prey.

Lately, however, he's done a good job of playing the other side of the fense, backing off, keeping a low profile, not engaging in the nastiness. I think ending up running Justice was always part of the plan...he knew how crooked these people were and realized that their time was up. You don't see him doing anything to stop the Federal prosecutors going after Abramhoff, and Members of Congress.

I bet this guy is on the short list to give GWB the word (in about six months), "It's time to go out that door and get on the helicopter. Sign here first."

We'll see.

And Alito could well have some trouble. He has ethics issues, ruling on cases where he had an interest. Never mind his fundy right-to-life stance, they can get him on "culture of corruption" if this GOP keeps imploding.

Gonzalez would be a slam dunk. Not a female, as Laura and Sandra Day wished, but moderate enough for the bulk of the Senate (they voted him in as AG), and we are past due for an Hispanic on the Court. And he can explain away the torture memos by averring that he was only postulating one side of an argument in his position as WH counsel, and it should not be construed as endorsement of the practice.

I'll bet when he talked the Monkey's way out of serving on that DWI jury back when the nitwit was governor, he never thought he'd be in quite this much of a catbird seat...

Oops, changed my mind. You're toast. AMF *.

:)

:D

"Robert Luskin, maintains that his client did not intentionally withhold facts from the prosecutor or grand jury but simply forgot about his conversations with Cooper."

There it is folks.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112805Z.shtml

Same author, but with another author added, and with some details on Stephen Hadley added.

down goes the Post... up comes the RAW!

It's been there all along, knocking out some good stuff. The idiots at the news channels don't bother to cover it. Maybe they should.

Give 'em Hell Harry!

can't stop smiling, either!

them all. In between, letting them each relax and boast and strut and get "sloppy" in their arrogance...like Rove has been the last few weeks since Libby's indictment.

Oh what a day it'll be when "Time's Man of the Year" get his Indictment...at last!