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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:59 AM
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Why can Couric have O'Reilly on to discuss the president's Iraq plan?
Perhaps I should ask why is it OK? Why does an ostensible news show have a person with an acknowledged conservative bias on to discuss Bush's new Iraq plan without any views from a different perspective?

On another issue, why do so-called news organizations use headlines that ask questions unless they wish not to report the news but to make it? This seems a thinly disguised effort to shape public opinion rather than an attempt to present the news.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:02 AM
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1. Your question about questions was a question. (Just kidding). My answer:
It sure ain't the lib'rel media!
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:20 AM
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8. Why do I ask these? It's therapeutic, I guess.
I imagine it seems a little redundant to y'all but it helps me. I hope y'all bear with me.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:04 AM
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2. I had the same thoughts this
morning....after his San Fran rant, I would have thought OhReally was a bit toxic to have on as a guest.....what an asshole.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:05 AM
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3. Did they just do that AGAIN?
It's not the first time. What dumb show.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:06 AM
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4. Supposedly O'Reilly was leering at Katie like the pervert he is
Wishing he had some falafel
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:07 AM
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5. (media whore) Couric has (blowhard media whore) O'LIElly on their vacuous
program.

Big shocker there.
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:21 AM
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10. I know it's been done before but I had to do something other than...
...bang my head against the wall before I changed the channel or left for work.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:22 PM
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27. sure, understood...
wasn't trying to deride you at all...that's one thing I love about DU: it's a great place to vent. :hi:

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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:10 AM
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6. Was he promoting a book?
Otherwise, I don't see why they would have him on solo to discuss Iraq. Unless they're trying him out as a potential commentator? (Bleh...)
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:22 AM
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11. He could've been; I didn't see. n/t
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:14 AM
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7. because it's not about informing the public

it's about entertaining them under the guise of news.

O'Reilly makes for good theatre - albeit of a low-brow type.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:32 AM
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16. Bingo! You nailed it squarely on the head.
The "news" has been dumbed down and is packaged as entertainment. Its nothing more than a parody of serious news reporting.

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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:02 AM
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22. Don't buy this line
The news isn't being "packaged". This is just another planted story, just like saying they have conservatives on because they do better. We've seen Air America radio skyrocket to success. We saw Donahue be the most popular show MSNBC had before the war, and it was the only countervailing opinion show to the nationalistic media pro-war presentation.

Entertainment has nothing to do with it. I'd find it very entertaining to get someone like Franken or perhaps a little faster more witty, and loud democrat up there who wasn't afraid of talking O'Reilly down. Even better, give O'Reilly a chance to bloviate without interruption, then put on Mike Moore, or someone with the opposite opinion.

No, sorry, it isn't about entertainment, it is about the brainwashing we all get from the media, and from others from birth who are brainwashed by it. It is necessary to keep the majority uneducated, and duped. They have been quite successful. Think about McCain's presidential run, or Dean's demise. Who brought those about? Imagine a responsive media. Would they have played Dean's scream 3000 times? Wouldn't they have pointed out the obvious racism of the McCain black-baby story? No, and what happened? In both cases a generally duped population followed them like drunk sheep over the cliff. I know; I ran a Dean group, and after the scream, all we were left with were the original bunch who were there before his meteoric rise, the original thinkers, almost all were readers of books, and intelligent. All of the followers left with the media.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:01 AM
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24. I think there are both elements at work here.
Maybe it would have been more accurate for me to have said that the broadcast media packages bias in an entertaining format.

I agree with you about brainwashing and the desire to keep the public uneducated and uninformed to further an agenda but that propaganda is packaged in an entertaining manner because Americans want to be entertained. Why else would commentators like Ann Coulter be booked on programs that are considered to be serious in nature to discuss important issues? It sure isn't because she offers intelligent, insightful commentary; its because she's the TV equivalent of a radio shock jock.

Think about the run-up to the Iraq war as it played out on television. Not only was the public spoon-fed BS but it was done in a slick, attention grabbing way. Colorful graphics, animated flags, music, computerized simulations, shocking sound-bites, the whole nine yards.




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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:02 AM
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25. Good heavens! Look how close you are to 1000 posts! n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 11:23 AM by harlinchi
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:08 AM
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26. Lol...and it took me over a year to get this far! n/t
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:47 AM
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18. Low-brow is right - maybe even lower on the anatomy, IMO.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:21 AM
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9. Couldn't get any of the usual military analysts to
put their faces on camera talking about this so-called plan? Never any problem getting O'Reilly to put his face in front of a camera, no matter how much ridiculous BS he has to spew. Unless a liberal leaning program has invited him, of course.
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:23 AM
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12. That makes sense. n/t
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:26 AM
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13. All too common. Pure opinion shaping and propaganda.
They stack the deck, put the corporate finger on the scale, etc...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:28 AM
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14. My first thought is that ..
that's the best they can do at the today show..that's all their measely ge brains can come up with..bo on *'s "Iraq plan" which I'm sure was fulla bs.

katie couric is going way down hill with this propoganda tripe.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:31 AM
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15. Because Couric is a bigger whore than O'Reilly
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:45 AM
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17. Because they're both White House whores?
:shrug:

And BTW, we don't refer to the current male resident of the WH as "the president" here.
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:52 AM
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19. I think that someone else had it right when they said
he was there for entertainment purposes only. I hope and pray that no one uses Bill O Reilly on the TV or Radio for the purpose of getting any kind of perspective on current events. (well, except for blondes lost in arruba)
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:52 AM
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20. Yea,
If anybody doesn't "get it" it is O'Reilly, well, except for the big bucks he gets paid to shill for the president and Rupert.

It is sad isn't it; the fairness directive was done away with in the mid-eighties, and with it the media's presentation of both sides of the argument. They are into everything like the tentacles of an octopus, even the last bastion of truth, public media.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:01 AM
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21. O'Reilly is calling for a boycott of MSNBC
and they have him on the Today Show as a guest????

That's beyond whoredom, that's Stockholm syndrome
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:33 PM
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28. And why would bo go on
nbc if he really thought msnbc was worth "boycotting"?

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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:04 AM
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23. Did he say something stupid and/or completely false?
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 10:05 AM by Rob H.
If he did, in the coming days look for him to deny ever having said it and to bloviate about how it's all a big plot by the "liberal" media to take away his freedom of speech. (Nevermind the fact that there'll be taped evidence to the contrary.)

Why? Because that's what the lying, splotchy bully always does.
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