I've decided...I want Dr. Dean for President in 2008

He appeals to me as no other candidate does. How do others feel about this?

But he is good where he is and has said that he will not run in 2008. I think we have more of a chance winning in 2008 with Dean as chair of the DNC.

He seems to have a better plan than McAullife. I'm very happy Dean is our chairman and definietly think the whole campaign season from 2006-2008 will go a lot better because of how involved Dean is etc. He's the best and he's so perfect with this job. :) How long can someone stay chairman?

equally effective, realistic, idealistic (I know they are opposites but you need to have both IMO) and charasmatic.

I guess circumstances could change enough to make it legit for him to run, but don't you think it would be a liability for him from the get-go, to renege on his promise not to run?

if only he'd run. :cry:

I'd like to hear from him, and others too. But he said--indeed, pledged--that by taking the DNC helm that knocked him out of '08. It would take a consensus of elected Democrats that his candidacy was in the party's best interest, plus a strong push from the people, to shift him from that position, IMO.

and I mean PUSH....who cares what the elected Dems think?? Seriously. A lot of their actions helped get us here in the first place.

And the local party infrastructure. He would not do it on his own, without a substantial cadre of senior elected leaders behind him. He is very astute politically, and he is a team player.

It really is a team sport, though it does not look like it, sometimes.

totally wrong about Dean. I love him as head of the DNC. I didn't want him for the democratic candidate in 2004. But that's where I'm thinking I was wrong. I still would love to see Clark as the nominee, but I sure wouldn't protest or squawk if Dean got it. But I think he's got the job he was meant to have. Resurrecting the democratic party and taking it back from the DINOs.

for the dems.

There's only one common honorific a President should have: "Mister" or "Ms", depending on gender. "President ____ " is also fine in the context of politics.

I respect Howard Dean's life in medicine, but it's getting to be a little like "Mister Frank Sinatra" -- his accomplishments ought to be honor enough. If Howard Dean becomes President Dean, he will no longer be a physician. It's a subtle thing, I know, but it makes the difference between public respect and kissing up, no matter how much personal esteem one has for him.

Besides, there are three or four physicians, including Bill Frist, who are Republicans, whose lives in medicine are the only positive things they've done.

I'd say Mr. Dean is up there with Mr. Gore and Mr. Kerry. But I also think -- and have said many times -- we are in a very fortunate period now, where we have so many talented people in the Democratic Party. I can't imagine a lot of the one-note rancor around here, but at least the passion works well. Warts and all, the current crop of Democratic mugwumps contains some of the best leaders we've ever had.

--p!

Get yer cotton' pickin' mitts offa my DNC Chairman.

He's got Chairman stuff to do. Growin' the party, makin' sure the party drinks its milk, fertilizin' the grassroots, and stuff like that.

He better NOT be thinking about 2008.

Y'all can have him when he's finished. Maybe in 2012 or something.

he'll run.

I like him.

He was the one with good governance credentials, good goals/plans, and could present a helluvan argument on all points...didn't back down!
Dem voters were nuts to discard his candidacy.
Let's try again....

why didn't he capture the nomination in 2004? I thought he was doing a great job. MSM had a role, a LARGE role, in bringing him down. Do you think they would still be an obstacle? Also, not being much of a Kerry fan, I was SURPRISED when he did so well. Now, he is/was a DNC boy. Do you think that the old powers that be in the Democrats will block Dean? Just curious. Personally, I think Dean was blocked last time around, and I'm not sure what will change this time.

Now don't go stirring all THAT up again!

IMHO, Dean was torpedoed, but he is still working hard for the county. I don't think he'll run in 08, but if he does, you bet I'll back him. I worked hard for him in 04, and I know A LOT MORE about local politics then I did then.

P.S.: I'm in Macomb County

:hi:

I don't want to stir, my low posts and all. I'm a Deaniac as well. And Macomb county is a fine place.

President. I would happily vote for him.

Dean has zero chance to win anymore states than Kerry. How many times do we need to lose before people realize that we can't win with a New Englander atop the ticket?!

you may have a valid point on this issue.

we just MUST have a Southerner on the ticket right? I'm a little tired of that crap too.

A midwesterner or western candidate would be good too. But we have too much of a losing streak with a New Englander atop the ticket and a winning streak with a southerner. I'd prefer to be on the winning side.

I don't know what it is, but people from the rest of the country don't like candidates from New England. It's not really fair, but it's the truth. And frankly, I'm sick of losing! Dean and Kerry are super individuals, but they don't have a snowball's chance in hell at flipping a single red state! And until that happens, we won't win the White House.

Clark, Warner, Richardson, Bayh, Schweitzer are the type of candidates where we can beat the Repugs in the electoral college.

I am also a Bluegrass Dem. Howdy neighbor!

He is doing the most important work where he is now.

because otherwise it wouldn't be appropriate for him to both run for president and be chairman at the same time. I think he is good where he is, very much doubt he would get any traction in another run for president.

I love Howard (we're on a first-name basis). He has my vote.

to admit that I would support Howard Dean for any position he runs for and/or holds.

I believe that he tells the truth.
I believe that he holds country over politics.
I believe that he holds compassion over victory.
I believe that he would go to the mat for us.

And has.

Howard Dean has spoken for me for as long as I've been listening.

Good to see all the old "Deaniacs" representing! LOL

He was the only candidate whose campaign I've ever given money to.

But I don't think he'd win a presidential election unless he handled himself better with the media. He didn't look too smooth on Meet The Press, as I recall, and he was occasionally flustered by stealth media attacks - for instance when some reporter dug up his appearance on a Canadian talking heads show from the 90s where Dean poo-poo'd the Iowa Caucus and then asked him about it, he seemed surprised that they found the interview and he didn't have a very good reply. He should ASSUME they are going to find EVERYTHING and have his reply ready. He was unprepared, and it showed.

There's stuff he's great at - he stays on his talking points really well, but extemporaneously he is lacking. Not for lack of brains or vocabulary - not at all like Bush - but he just doesn't seem to have the ability to reign it in when the situation calls for it.

I'd have the same problem if I were a candidate - I love calling an idiot an idiot, and sometimes you just have to say it nicer.

I do love his stuff though, and if he got the nomination I'd go nuts working for the campaign.

In retrospect, I wonder if Bob Graham might not have been the toughest candidate against Dubs last year. The man always seems so smooth and likable in his media appearances. Not terribly charismatic though. Any thoughts?

he's better than all the others so far

Much rather have Dean, Kerry, Gore or Clark before Hillary.

:popcorn:

:( I would like for him to run too but he said he wouldn't if he got the chair.

He's the first and only candidate I've ever contributed money to. He is so resilient, and he's definitely not a wuss. He speaks for me... Here's to you, Doctor Dean: :thumbsup: :loveya: :loveya:


Edited to correct spelling error.

No hard feelings; I hope he helps to move the Democratic Party forward in a constructive way in his current capacity.

I hate to say his career died the night of that goofy I have a scream speech.

I honestly believe that Howard Dean, who I really have the greatest respect for and who I supported for President in 2000 will do more for our beloved country as Chair of the Democratic Party taking us to win back the Senate, possibly the House and the White House.

He's already making his mark in the biggest possible way as our Chair. :hi: