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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:20 PM
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Why do you think the press always blame the dems ...
when the repugs get in trouble. Seems that no matter what story the press talk about be it Rove, Abramhoff, libby, Katrina,Iraq etc... they always say but the dems are in trouble they have to do this or that, I know they have to have a balance, but when they finish telling the story they always try to blame dems in some way. Does anyone remember this when Dems were in power.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:24 PM
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1. its in their genes!!
i know i know--not nice--but they are so so so programed to do blame clinton/dems that i just could not pass it up.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:27 PM
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2. I don't know that I've seen the MSM blame the Dems
At least not that I recognized. What I do hear all the time is thata the Pubs are tanking, but the dems don't seem to be taking advantage of this opportunity. The most recent justification for their comments is that all the recent polls show ALL congress men are way down in the polls!

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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:52 PM
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3. 3 Words!
Corporate Media Consolidation


Read this interview with Robert Kane Pappas, Director and Producer of
"Orwell Rolls in His Grave"

http://www.orwellrollsinhisgrave.com/interview.htm

-snip-

Q: During the film, you make a very compelling case that we’ve entered an Orwellian world - arguing effectively that in an age of corporate media consolidation, where the media are aligned with the governmental message -- that is to say, the Bush message -- we’ve truly entered an Orwellian age.

In 1984, one of the main goals of the Ministry of Truth was to erase history on a daily basis so that anything that conflicted with the message of the government perished. There was only one person who had the repository of truth.

Robert Kane Pappas: Well, 1984 is a novel, but a couple of things struck me about Orwell. One had to do with the newest story obliterating the last story, so there was this public forgetfulness. A story runs its course, you see it day and night, and then it goes away. It appeared that if you have the right experts speaking, and more importantly, choose the right moderator, it's quite easy to control the discussion. You can focus the people’s attention here and then focus it there. With all our investigative tools of the news media, it seems that they never connect the dots. You may have a series of stories, all showing a pattern of behavior in government, but for some reason, the news media don’t treat it as a pattern.

The other thing I wanted to say about Orwell that really struck me was the misuse of language that he goes into. Watching the news over the last several years more carefully, I realized that complicated stories or concepts are boiled down to short “tag lines” so the public's understanding of it is diminished. This euphemistic use of language turns everything into either a two-word marketing phrase, something is named the opposite of what it means. By lying first, or misnaming something first, you can define how people think about it, and quite strikingly....


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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:56 PM
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4. Can't WAIT until IWT begins broadcasting - they'll beat all the Alphabet
soup on ratings and SERIOUS NEWS and TRUTH in REPORTING.

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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:09 PM
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6. I KNOW!!
In fact I just switched from Time Warner (ugh! ONLY cable company in my area) to DISHTV - a BLUE company and they're definitely going to carry IWT!! And like the IWT website states, if 500,000 donate $5. month they'll be able to put their plan to action!! Who can't afford that?!! Seriously, we can't afford not to!

I keep ranting about how everything we're fighting is being made near to impossible because of not having a free, independent press. I hope more and more people get on board!


"An able, disinterested, public-spirited press, with trained
intelligence to know the right and courage to do it, can preserve
that public virtue without which popular government is a sham and
a mockery. A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in
time a people as base as itself."


"Our republic and its press will rise and fall together.


-Joseph Pulitzer

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:15 PM
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7. I agree and ...
I think people don't talk enough and dems (grass root people) need to help the unaware become more aware by discussing what is important to them, and show how it effects them in their everyday lives.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:04 PM
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5. What is the nature of a whore?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:19 PM
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8. Check out MSNBC weeknights ...
at 5pm or 7pm at least in my area 9 ( I thawt I thaw a Pwutty tat)
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:49 PM
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9. Because Dems are easy to blame.
They don't fight back.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:07 PM
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10. The pundits are repukes
Simple answer. They're hired after the real journalists have been purged by the thieves at the top.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:13 PM
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12. Spot on
A short accurate answer to an often asked question. Wish everybody knew it.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:43 PM
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11. I've always wondered why they picked...
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 02:44 PM by butterfly77
Pelosi and Reid, that just don't seem to have that punch when it comes to fighting these repugs.They need some Dems like Jeffrey Feiger the lawyer in Michigan or someone who won't back down or play the game the way they want.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:19 PM
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13. That's their job.
That's what the corporate media hires them to do.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:16 PM
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16. exactly right
they have bosses, and their bosses are the republicans.
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BlueAwards Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:03 PM
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14. Hmmmm
Actually, many of these scandals have give the media the opportunity to give some good coverage to Dems... there will always be certain stations that do a better job than others, but much of what I heard lately is favorable to us... clearly a connection with our rising poll numbers
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:40 PM
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17. Yeah. they give the dems good coverage...
but when they get finished describing the problems that bush and the repugs are having, they always add that but the dems still have problems with something. They always find something wrong with the dems. Their main one is " the dems haven't told us what they would do differently" But they never say that the repugs steal all of their ideas from the dems.

Notice how now when dems (murtha or Kerry and others) say what needs to be done they find something wrong with that and , every Repug they find shows up on every show to try to conteract what the dems says, some of them are so angry that people are listening, they are about to bust a blood vessel trying to get their point across. I saw one on cnn the other day debating Terry mcCulla he was so angry he looked like he want to come to blows.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:05 PM
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15. When the Dems were in power
it was 100% blame the Dems.
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