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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:42 PM
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"Why we went into Iraq is not a debate anymore." Bow-tie boy on Tweety.
Say what? Then Tucker Carlson goes on about when we leave Iraq, it has to be honorably (not like the roof-top evacuation in Saigon in April 1975, sez the bow-tie). How the fuck can we leave a war honorably when we started it so dishonesty and dishonorably?
Then he insinuates that the US economic turn-down in the mid-70s was due to our slinking out of Viet Nam. Say what!? The economic downturn, and Carter's economic nemesis, was due to massive debt from the war in Viet Nam.
I think the bow-tie is tied too tight. Eh?

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:44 PM
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1. I don't think the bow-tie is tied tight enough.
Anybody want to give it a good yank? Maybe *ucker's fluffy little head will pop.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:44 PM
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2. its like that a lot with the RW--they make a declaration and think it is
true. what a bunch of morans.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:46 PM
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3. send bow tie man a one way ticket to Irag -maybe he will honorably

be blown up?



it has to be honorably (not like the roof-top evacuation in Saigon in April 1975,
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:48 PM
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4. clearly his bow-tie is too tight.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:48 PM
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5. 'On The Absurdity Of Refusing To Ask How We Got To Where We Are'
by poster 'hvn_nbr_2 '...

1. criminal defense lawyer in murder trial
"Your Honor, the appropriate task before us is not to determine how the decedent became deceased or by whose hand it happened. We must instead focus on how to make things better and what we can do about the future. Clean the blood off the sidewalk indeed, for the future, but pay no mind to how it got there. Comfort the grieving indeed, but it is pointless to argue about how their grief came be."

Unspoken subtext: Leave the murdering bastard free to roam the streets unfettered.


2. incompetent high school coach
"Distinguised Board of Education, the past is gone and done, and we can't change it; we must instead look to the future. It is utterly useless for us to ask if Coach Ninncompooooo made mistakes when he went for it on 4th and 28 from his own 2-yard-line, with 25 minutes left to play; or whether it was a mistake to put that kid back in the game when he'd already had three concussions that night; or whether it's a problem that our players can't tackle or block; or whether the coach lied on his resume about his experience. We need to focus on how to make it better and where we go from here."

Unspoken subtext: If we don't identify errors, lies, or blunders, we can't identify incompetence and bad judgment, so let's all just continue on the path of incompetence and bad judgment. No change can be needed if no mistakes are identified.


3. embezzling company president
"Fellow shareholders, the money is gone and that's just how it is. I don't think we need to re-fight where it went or how it disappeared. We need to focus on how to proceed from where we are."

Unspoken subtext: Our president is a crook and a liar, but we shouldn't talk about that. Support our employees, support our customers, support our shareholders, support our lying, thieving, embezzling pretzeldent.


4. drunk driver's passengers
"Fellow passengers, we must not ask if our driver lied when he said he was sober enough to drive. Rather, the task for us is to clear the pedestrian body parts from our windshield, to keep adding water to the mangled radiator, to help push the car out of the ditch it is in."

Unspoken subtext: If we asked how we got to where we are, we might have to consider changing drivers in mid-trip. Horrors!

link-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2281166
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:48 PM
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6. There is no way to leave honorably
When we went there dishonestly!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:50 PM
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9. well said. n/t
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:49 PM
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7. O.K. that settles it for me ,, No more talking about it, starting NOW!
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 07:49 PM by bahrbearian
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:49 PM
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8. It would be a big debate if someone you cared about were in Iraq, TC.
But I suppose that "support the troops" is really just an empty slogan to you. Those troops are just androids, aren't they, Tucker, and so what's the point in debating the reason why they're dying and being maimed.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:00 PM
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10. Old news, move along. Nothing here. Nothing here.
Look, Tucker Carlson has a mort-gage he has to pay. He cannot report the news; he's too busy squelching it. Gotta earn that paycheck!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:10 PM
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11. Freakboy Carlson also said
the repukes were going to sweep in 2006. A DUer said he hasn't been right about anything yet.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:31 PM
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12. However, as strange as it may seem, Tucker Carlson still has ...
BANDWIDTH. Figuratively and literally. TV and cable. I don't .. nor do most of you, have access to the bandwidth that bow-tie does. Our bandwidth is limited, in most cases, to DU. Let's use it well.

Mac
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:33 PM
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13. Oh, I understand that
When BowTie Boy starts losing a debate he simply calls it off?

Sorry BowTie Boy. It doesn't work that way. The debate is a raging and you lost it. Totally
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