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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:36 PM
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More McCain Attacks: Murtha ‘Sentimental,’ ‘Never Been a Big Thinker’
More McCain Attacks: Murtha ‘Sentimental,’ ‘Never Been a Big Thinker’

On Sunday, Sen. John McCain — regularly lauded for his nonpartisan “straight talk” — attacked Rep. John Murtha for having “become too emotional” over the Iraq war.

McCain was simply repeating the line he had given Byron York in an interview for the New Republic. That piece is now online, and as you’ll see below, McCain was even more personal when speaking to York:

John Murtha is “a lovable guy,” but “he’s never been a big thinker; he’s an appropriator.” Using language that Bush never could, McCain tells me that Murtha has become too emotional about the human cost of the war. “As we get older, we get more sentimental,” McCain says. “And has been very, very affected by the funerals and the families. But you cannot let that affect the way you decide policy.”

We’ll put aside whether 69-year-old John McCain should be referencing 73-year-old John Murtha’s age to dismiss his policy positions. But with McCain’s comments about Murtha’s intellectual capacity in mind, it’s worth noting some of Murtha’s accomplishments.

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/06/mccain-murtha/

BELOW: John McCain in a sentimental, sweaty moment.

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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:39 PM
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1. bastard
eom
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:40 PM
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2. Fuck that pasty douchebag.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:40 PM
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3. John McCain gave secrets to the North Vietnamese while he was in prison
Yeah, we can play this game too.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:22 AM
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33. No, don't go there
Those are the same kind of ignorant accusations that are tossed Kerry's way as well. I cannot recall the man's name ofhand, but there's a certified fruitloop out there that has been hounding both Senators for decades because of their perceived sympathy towards Vietnam. He was imprisoned awhile ago for assulting a McCain staffer, I believe.

If you want to counter McCain, do it with facts, not hype.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:41 PM
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4. The Real McCain
." The anti-immigrant Minuteman vigilantes had rallied on the Arizona-Mexico border in protest of his progressive immigration policy. Discord gripped the state GOP leadership. So the man who in 2000 dubbed himself "Luke Skywalker fighting his way out of the Death Star" headed straight into enemy territory, organizing a town hall meeting with rank-and-file conservatives in the desert town of Mesa. "Many of those in the crowd Thursday wore stickers with a circle and a slash--the symbol for 'no'--across the words 'McCain 2008,'" the local East Valley Tribune reported.

But the senator they saw projected a far more conciliatory image than the trash-talking maverick portrayed in the national media. Before the event he had endorsed teaching "intelligent design" alongside evolution in public schools, and he had expressed support for a rigid state ban on gay marriage that denies government benefits to any unmarried couple. After brief opening remarks, McCain took questions for more than two hours, referring to Reagan as "my hero," invoking the support of other conservatives on issues such as stem-cell research and immigration, and strenuously defending President Bush's Iraq policy.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051212/berman
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:44 PM
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5. McCain is as disgusting as Bush. I can't believe he would make...
comments such as Murtha becoming sentimental about the war because of his age. McCain is as stupid as Bush. I hope the Democrats have his comments recorded for when McCain makes a run for the presidency in 2008. These comments will come back to haunt this no good SOB.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:44 PM
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6. rah rah for the sentimental people. McCain should be ashamed of
himself for saying such a thing.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:44 PM
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7. good McCain exposé in the current Nation
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 03:47 PM by central scrutinizer
shows how he has always been a rank opportunist with no sense of shame, hypocrisy or irony.

edited to add link:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051212/berman
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:45 PM
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8. John McCain has surely been kidnapped and replaced by a replicant
..happened some time in late 2000, If I recall correctly.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:45 PM
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9. maybe we can run Murtha for VP in 2008
I'd like to see him on the stump speaking out against the Bushies

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:46 PM
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10. BASTARD!
:argh:

"MAVERICK MCCAIN" is BULLSHIT! Pure BULLSHIT!

:grr:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:49 PM
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11. How can one be "too emotional about the human cost of war?"
Please, mccain, expand for this veteran that thought. What this country needs is the religiously insane having an ephiphany and realizing our kids are dying because of their ignorant and blind support of a man who lied to them not only about the war but about his christianity. American blood is being wasted in Iraq because a large segment of our christian community insists that bush be enabled to do so.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:26 PM
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20. The ephiphany may be the idea
that "false gods will arise among you" and that Bush is one of them.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:49 PM
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12. and where did mccain believe he was a great thinker
in fact he is an immoral and corrupt man

anyone who would vote against making Martin Luther King day a national holiday says everything about his belief system, and why HE IS NOT A GREAT THINKER, but simple a political WHORE
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:54 PM
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13. Yeah, what we need is a bunch more neocon big thinkers
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:00 PM
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14. Well, look at these two old bastards, bush and mccain, having.......
a sentimental moment together. I guess it makes a difference whether you are having a sentimental moment about yourselves (bush and mccain) or a sentimental moment about American troops that have been sent to an illegitimate war and put in harms way (Murtha). Personally, bush and mccain and their mutual phony love fest make me want to :puke:. Murtha's personal concern for our troops is very touching.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:01 PM
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15. John your buddies are going to sink you. Rush is savaging you now.
We like to call it "eating your young".
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:05 PM
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16. So McCain thinks that concern for dead soldiers is just
silly sentimentalism? I hope we can bash him over the head with that in his run in '08.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:07 PM
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17. In many ways
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 04:07 PM by rniel
He pisses me off more than bush/cheney. At least Cheney is up front about who he is and not hiding behind a mask, saying "I'm a moderate, I'm a moderate" while he gropes and cuddles with bush for insulting his family.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:19 PM
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18. McCain sold his soul to the devil
I'm guessing for certain promises dealing with a 2008 presidential bid.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:24 PM
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19. Obviously, McCain didn't read the DU thread
I posted earlier about this:

http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/archives/002173.php

<snork>
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:28 PM
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21. Yep. McCain's a big thinker, alright. He's busy thinking
himself right up Junior's asshole. He's a shameless, pathetic pawn. Period.

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:36 PM
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22. Has this man no shame, I guess he seems to be doing unto
others that was done to him....

For shame McCain.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:38 PM
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23. But Smirky is just a mental powerhouse, isn't he?
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:30 PM
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24. How can you not "get emotional" when young brave soldiers die as well
as civilians for Lies.... oops I mean poor intel...
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:40 PM
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25. McCain the bully. He's afraid of George Bush but bullies everyone else.
n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:20 PM
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26. Oh, and were are to believe that McCain is a big thinker! Please! n/t
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:24 PM
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27. Moron
Where's his plan?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:04 AM
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28. McCain taps out more bullshit
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:59 AM
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29. Er..John--hey, John! Yes, YOU, John! C'mere!
What're you trying to DO, John?? Saying Murtha "has never been a big thinker"?? Lissen, Genius-Boy, you keep saying Murtha's never been a big thinker, and our constituents are liable to start sticking to him like Krazy Glue! Lissen, John, I'm serious--don't you KNOW that all OUR voters are from the "never been big thinkers" group????

Now SHUT UP about that, will ya, John?? You trying to alienate Red State Amurica from us???
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:20 AM
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30. A Puke is a Puke is a Puke is Puke ...
Even so-called "moderates" or "maverics" like McCain think it nothing to trash a fellow Vietnam veteran.

It's a wide divide to the Dark Side. The Republics love their party more than they love their country.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:48 AM
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31. Didn't McCain graduate at the bottom of his class?
I think he went to West Point, or one of those testosterone military places.

I also think he graduated at the very bottom of his class. So, living in a glass house, I would think McCain shouldn't toss too many stones.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:16 AM
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32. NY Times today: Bush has gone around McCain with torture issue
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/14/politics/14detain.html?hp&ex=1134622800&en=82c2f1a581e2e2c8&ei=5094&partner=homepage

"Some military officials said the new guidelines could give the impression that the Army was pushing the limits on legal interrogation at the very moment when Mr. McCain, Republican of Arizona, is involved in intense three-way negotiations with the House and the Bush administration to prohibit the cruel treatment of prisoners.

In a high-level meeting at the Pentagon on Tuesday, some Army and other Pentagon officials raised concerns that Mr. McCain would be furious at what could appear to be a back-door effort to circumvent his intentions.

"This is a stick in McCain's eye," one official said. "It goes right up to the edge. He's not going to be comfortable with this." "

Hey, Senator McCain, how does that stick in your eye and that shiv in your back feel?? Your good buddy, Bush, unsentimental thinker that he is, put them there.

I used to like McCain; now I like to watch BushCo screw him. Can't wait for the '08 primaries!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:39 AM
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34. Fuck you, McCain.
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