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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:10 PM
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Condi: "We do not torture. It's those private contractors who do"
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 07:11 PM by Lefty48197
Well, she didn't come right out and say that it was the private contractors who were torturing prisoners, but she never once said that the private contractors WEREN'T torturing.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20051208/a_rice08.art.htm

"Cruel and degrading interrogations are prohibited for all U.S. personnel around the world, Rice said." - They're NOT prohibited for the 'private contractors' we hire, is what she didn't say.

“As a matter of U.S. policy,” Rice said during a news conference with Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko, the United Nations Convention Against Torture “extends to U.S. personnel wherever they are, whether they are in the U.S. or outside the U.S.” - "Those rules don't apply to the 'private contractors' we hire, is what she didn't say.

Here's what else she didn't say, "...didn't say whether the rules would apply to private contractors or foreign interrogators..."

"Rice's words Wednesday built on President Bush's statement that the United States does not practice torture, and on her own previous remarks." - Again, it's not the "United States", it's the "private contractors".

Who do they think they're fooling?

Once again, the Secretary has shown why her nickname is Contbelieveya Rice.

Meanwhile, "...Vice President Cheney led a lobbying effort to halt or make exceptions to Senate-approved legislation by Vietnam torture victim Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that would forbid cruel treatment of terrorism suspects anywhere."

Hey, just because we don't torture, doesn't mean we shouldn't oppose rules that FORBID torture.







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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:44 PM
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1. The other thing she didn't say was that
much of our security contracting goes to firms headquartered in the U.K. Aegis Defence, for example, the ones that had the AegisIraq video on the internet showing the shoot-em up to strains of Elvis--British. Lincoln Group. Yesterday there was a thread with a link to the security contractors that contract for Iraq work. BlackH20 and Canopy X3 are among the few that are all U.S. This gives insulation in many ways--they are "private" contractors--rather than govt. agents. As long as they perform the task we don't specify the means--because that would vitiate their independence. Plus--they are not U.S. citizens--we can't prosecute them and neither can the Iraqis. Wecan't make their own country prosecute them, either.

Sick behavior!
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:47 PM
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2. Rice is superglued to stupid!
Who is overall responsible for the war? That would be those crappy Culture of Corruption and Torture is us, rethuglicans... :eyes:
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:05 PM
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3. I didn't smoke that joint....
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 08:24 PM by BronxBoy
it was my lungs that did it.

edited for spelling
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:04 PM
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5. I didn't have sexual relations with that woman.
It was my penis that did that.

And it wasn't really with that woman -- just her lips.

And maybe her teeth.

But nothing more.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:02 PM
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4. These people are all chickenshits
This is just like Bush putting that line in the State of the Union address about "The UK has learned ..."

Yeah, right, they "learned" it because we planted the story, and everybody involved knew it was bullshit. But the fact remains that the UK did "learn" about that information bogus or not, and that was good enough for Bush to put it in the speech.

And thee bastards have the audacity to criticize Clinton about the meaning of "is".
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:45 PM
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6. Hi MindMatter!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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