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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:52 PM
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The Moral Hell of Condoleezza Rice

http://www.counterpunch.com/chuckman12102005.html

Torture and White Phosphorous


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One thing history surely does tell us is that nothing is more dangerous than Condeleezza's tendency to speak in sweeping, virtually meaningless generalizations about the people she regards as foes. Every war of aggression, every wave of state terror, every deadly fanatical cause has used just such terms. People are described with de-humanized slogans, making them easy to hate and abuse. We should all go on a personal terror alert when powerful figures talk this way.

The assertion of a special case or status in the current situation is utterly dishonest. It is more than dishonest: it is a deliberately constructed logical fallacy calculated to elicit the idea of special measures from listeners. It is America's special measures that Condoleezza went to Europe to defend.

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I don't want to quibble about the meaning of torture. The CIA term "enhanced interrogation technique" is straight out of the horrors described in Orwell's Politics and the English Language. If, as one wag put it, it isn't torture, then why not use it on Cheney in getting to root of current scandals in Washington? Of course, it's torture.

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But on such fine distinctions and guarded answers stands the word of the United States today. "No, Sir, I don't understand how those good folks got roasted, but I can assure you we did not use napalm." So when Condoleezza asserts, as she did a while back on a trip to Canada, that "the word of the United States is as good as gold," you just have to smile bitterly.
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if Condi had morals she wouldn't have shopped for shoes while N.O. drowned.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:55 PM
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1. Condi,you are not worthy nt
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:55 PM
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2. A condition precedent
to a "moral hell" is the presence of a conscience.

Rice has none, as has been demonstrated time and again.

So, she experiences no "hell." She experiences gratification when she gets to do what she wants, and rage when she's blocked from doing what she wants.

Let's remember that tortured rictus on her face when she was forced to testify before the 9/11 commission. She thought it was a smile, but she was wrong.

It was horrifying. Remember?

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:01 PM
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5. This one?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:09 PM
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9. No
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 01:09 PM by OldLeftieLawyer
That's her real smile.

I was referring to the fake one, the one where she tries to look sane and human at the same time, and fails.

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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:31 PM
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11. In this photo, Ms. Rice is hotly defending herself.
At this moment, she says, "I will not be impugned". Meaning, she has no apologies for whatever the administration has done, in terms of failed policies, going to war based on lies, etc etc.

The next day, the newspapers snapped into action. "Good Girl", they exulted. "One Tough Lady", said the headline of the Oregonian.

See? They loved it when she defended her masters.



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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:02 PM
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6. you nailed it!
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:37 PM
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12. You took the words out of my mouth. She is one scary woman.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:58 PM
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3. No one with a real conscience would be working for Bush.
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 01:05 PM by BrklynLiberal
The only ones there are those that loathe themselves, or everyone else, or perhaps those categories are mutually inclusive.

The evil inside shows in her face.


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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:01 PM
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4. The Secretary of State is another Crony.
Nothing the RW Noise machine says about her ("brilliant, qualified, gracious, smart. . . .") changes the fact that she is a shallow rich girl with a job given her by an intimate friend.
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don garb Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:03 PM
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7. you can't hurt ...
a psychopath's feelings by calling them a psycho!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:05 PM
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8. Condi working to ensure Jr not known in history as the 'torture pres"-says
mark sheilds on pbs last evening.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:11 PM
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10. Gag me!
"The word of the United States is as good as gold."

Gee, Condi, I actually remember a time when that was true ...

As for the bitterness in her face in those photos, maybe those f*ckin' $3,500 Ferragamos are hurting her feet!
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:40 PM
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13. Contbelieveya Rice
Sorry. You've lied too many times. I know you were raised in a family that taught you that it was ok to lie, so I'm not surprised that you keep on doing it.
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