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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:59 PM
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I keep thinking things can't get any worse - then Bush does something.
I have that odd deja vu feeling each day as I watch the US roll down hill. The worse it gets, the more I think - hey, we're hitting bottom now, right? Then Bush or one of his cronies comes up with something to prove me wrong. It can get worse, and it does.

How much can one very bad pResident and his revoltingly selfish party screw up a country in 3 short years?

That's the question that has me :scared:.

What do you think is coming up next for the good ol' USA?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:02 PM
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1. It's called outrage fatigue, and I have it also.
But here's two happy thoughts; Abramoff is going down and taking a lot of people with him.
And our dear sweet Patrick Fitzgerald will add fuel to the growing fire that is the BFEE.
Take heart!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:03 PM
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2. Economic hard times.
The housing bubble is deflating fast, energy costs skyrocketing, gold soaring, petro-euro about to happen. We're in serious financial shit, IMO.
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:05 PM
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3. Are you sure about that?
Because all we hear about is how the economy is soooooo strong.:sarcasm:
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:42 AM
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32. That is what I see too
I don't know how bad it will be, but I have no doubt that many more will be homeless, hungry, and cold. Everyone I talk to at work is never more than a day or two away from total ruin. I know that what I hear in the news is not what I see in my day to day life, and what I see tells me that there are way too many people living on the edge for there to be a happy ending without radical changes to our policies.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:05 PM
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4. Well, no one seems to be screaming out against torturing foreigners.
No one the US media will pay any attention to, at least.

So, my guess would be an expansion of who is considered "foreign." That's the route taken by several growing dictatorial regimes in recent history.
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:08 PM
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5. Well, my ancestors did emigrate on the Mayflower.
I guess in Bush's mind, that makes me foreign, too. I guess I better watch out for the Nazi... er, Bush stormtroopers at my door to haul me off for torture and elimination (with video so Bush and his Cabal can get off on it later - no doubt they've had plenty of fun with all those photos taken at Abu Graib). They are one sick pack of puppies.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:15 PM
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7. We are ALL foreigners to them n/t
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:23 PM
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8. That is a totally disgusting thought ...
... because it's probably true!
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:09 PM
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6. When it really gets to me, I take a little break from the news etc.
A few days even.

And tell myself that life will go on.

;)
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allisonthegreat Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:55 AM
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26. yes you have to break at times...n/t
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:23 PM
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9. Yes I agree, but
I hope that in 2006 we will make changes that will help. That is my only hope here. All of our futures of our kids depend on it. If that fails then expect anything to happen. This is why websites like this one will help us unite during the trying times. Thanks to skinner we can voice our concerns without being attacked by the talking head machine. We must stay strong and be relentless toward this administration. We need to turn our fears into power. I will not go looking for a fight, but if someone tells me how great B*sh is. That will open the door to tell them how I feel.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:24 PM
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10. That sensation of the ground falling beneath the feet....
...is one cultivated in totalitarian dictatorships.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:46 PM
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11. weird stuff....
howcum no american/'coalition' soldiers taken prisoner in iraq (does each soldier have microchip on him/his gear?)
how is it no tape of bush cursing and swearing when he's reputedly a pottie mouth, surfaced?
why hasn't any of the 50 or so nations which lost citizens in the wtc disaster poohpoohed the silly bushevik official story and called the us bush administration's actions on 911 suspicious at best and complicit or responsible for the deaths at worst?
why hasn't any information about 911 not controlled by the fbi (such as private homemade tapes of fireman/police conversations, or confirmable stories about the 'vigilant guardian' etc military exercises being held on 911, and who set the exercises up and how the media kept news of the exercises out of the msm?) been leaked to a journalist able to report it?
same with the london bombing incident....?
how is it noone with a famous name has come forward and stated outright that the 2k election was a planned coup, and that the busheviks/gop etc wallow in their hatred of 'liberal' america and the public interest?
why hasn't anyone famous called attention to the mass media's overwhelming corruption, and the litany of baldfaced lies they've told since regan's time?
why hasn't any famous person noted that the rich, under the banner of george bush, are waging a class war against the american people?
if overwhelming majority of citizens against the bush war, why hasn't any middleweight pols grabbed the brass ring and rode it to fame/fortune?
if the busheviks have stage managed the stock market since 911, why hasn't any concrete information about that come out?
why hasn't anyone attacked or threatened a mediawhore like brite hum bill owhorely or john gibson etc? vast numbers must loathe them guys....meanwhile michael moore needs constant bodyguards, and a freeper spits in jane fonda's face.....
sometimes it's as if the busheviks are working BACKWARD from the desired result, and arranging all the details via time travel or witchery...and the fact is, they can't even steal with any degree of competence, or lie without twitching like a dickensian pickpocket :(
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:54 PM
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12. America the Beautiful!
I think America is FANTASTIC! Everyday I wake up here, I give thanks. Yes, we have our problems--and nothing is going to be perfect--but our country comes pretty damn close to it! When I think of where I could have been born, the circumstances into which I could have had to live, I can't believe how lucky we are.

America--I LOVE IT!
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:59 PM
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13. I used to feel that way.
Now I seriously think about leaving. I never thought I would EVER feel that way about my country.

IMO, there are a lot of western nations who are better off than we are - AND they aren't stuck with Bush and his criminal pals. If only I could afford to emigrate...
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:14 PM
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15. Nah...
America is great--there's not another country that even comes close. I love it here!
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:27 PM
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16. You can remind me of that when Bush hauls you off to the Gulag...
...with no trial, no lawyer, and no way to plead your case. Or when you starve in the streets because you lost your job and there are no resources, or you die from a curable illness because you have no insurance.

You can remind me of that when YOUR elected US Senator hires an aide to tell you they'd press the button to execute you because you're disabled (happened to me personally, mind). Or when your taxes are raised to pay for a tax cut for the rich, or $$$ funnelled to defense contractors to launder back to the GOP.

Remind me how great America is when your vote and those of all your neighbors are eaten in a Republican controlled election machine that mysteriously changes votes from what YOU said to what THEY said in a supposedly "fair" election.

Remind me of how great our consitution is when the pResident of the USA, who is sworn to defend it, calls it a *#$(&%*& piece of paper.

Remind me of how great this country is when your home is wiped out by natural disaster, you're made homeless, no assistance is available, and people around you start dying because the Bush controlled government can't get off it's * to provide food and water to the displaced. Why? Because Bush stuffed FEMA with his political cronies.

Shall I go on?

Wake up, aPOSITIVEwin - we're not living in the same country anymore.
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:22 PM
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17. My country...
The country I'm living in is a wonderful place. I have more freedoms here, and more opportunities, than ever before. I'm not 'starving in the streets', I'm not getting hauled off to jail with no lawyer, and, in case of a natural disaster, my family is prepared to do for ourselves as much as we can. I'd hate to have those things happen to us--and everything else on your list happen--and be living anywhere else! We're very fortunate to live here, and I'm grateful.

This is the same country I was born into, and it will remain so after I die. America deserves every bit of loyalty I can give her--and I would defend her with my life.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:44 PM
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18. believe it or not
we love our Country too.. But not like a 4 year old loves it's Mommy. When it does something wrong we feel it to be our duty to correct it.
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:18 PM
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19. America
I'm glad we both love our country the same way!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 09:54 AM
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30. enough of this flag waving patriotism!
and your positive outlooks/exhuberance are out of place in this forum! While the dreary facts of the bush screwing of the United States of Slambamthankyouma'America does create dark thunderclouds over otherwise sunny dispositions here, it is wrong for you to eagerly dispel them thunderclouds seeing as how you're new to DU, where the burden of knowlege of the ugly crushes our spirits and grinds the detritus in the dirt, if you don't fukken mind!
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:37 PM
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20. Loyalty is fine. Blind loyalty is a disservice.
I love this nation too. That is the very reason I am critical of this administration. I love this nation so much, and they are wounding it.

I cannot close my eyes.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:55 PM
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21. For some, in the same country you were born into,
have less freedoms and less opportunities than ever before.

Some are starving in the streets, or getting hauled off to jail with no lawyer, and in case of a national disaster, lose everything and their country turns their back on them after the photo ops are done.

If you love America so much, what are you doing to fix her? Things are broken, you know.

Will they remain so after you die?

Are you going to leave your beloved America in worse shape than she was when you got her?

Welcome to DU.
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:19 PM
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22. I think...
...America is getting better and better! I'm proud of every step we take. Of all the places in the world millions are trying to get to live, America tops the list. There's no better testimonial.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:45 AM
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23. 10 posts and exuding happy juice?
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:50 AM
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24. I love troll dolls!
I played with them when I was a kid, but haven't seen one in ages! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:06 AM
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27. Step away from the illegal drugs and get yourself a cup of coffee
seriously kid, you need to sober up. Torture, the Katrina response, Iraq-none of it is worthy of our once great nation. The kind of Kool-Aid you've been drinking can cause some pretty serious delusions (as is evident by your post).
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:17 AM
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31. There's no better testimonial than what you think? You lost me there.
Enjoy your stay.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:07 PM
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36. I recommend you find out
what GWB's worldwide approving rating is compared to Clinton's. That'll show you how far America's fallen in the eyes of the world.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:39 PM
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34. Why aren't you in Iraq then?
:shrug:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:41 PM
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35. "and I would defend her with my life" .................Oh?
So.....whatcha waiting on?

Hop your patriotic ass down to the recruiter and turn your thoughts in to ACTION!
:patriot:

Oh, and welcome to DU yadda yadda yadda...
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:20 PM
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37. Thank you for your concern!
I only wish I COULD serve--I am a 50 year-old amputee--and I think the Army would spend more time taking care of me, than I could, taking care of it!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 03:57 PM
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39. I think you're full of shit.
But I'm so glad you love America!!!!!!!! :eyes:
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:37 PM
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41. I have to ask you:
What advantage do you see in being so manifestly unkind?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:36 AM
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44. And what advantage do you see coming here and spouting inane
rah-rah platitudes?

:shrug:
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:03 AM
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46. What I said...
...does not hurt anyone else. What you said DOES.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:21 AM
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47. Toughen up, my liberal friend, the battle is just begun
:eyes:
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:11 AM
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42. I got mine - why care about anybody else?

That’s such a typical Repug attitude...are you sure you’re on the right forum?
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:02 AM
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45. On the contrary...
I love America most because it is not only I that lead an advantaged life, but millions of others do, as well. People I love, people I work with, people I study with, people I live next to, people in my family, people that are my friends lead good lives here, too. Doing good in the world is central to my spiritual beliefs; America does the most good for the greatest number than any other country--I can't help but love her for that!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:55 AM
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25. Have you ever visited other first world countries? n/t
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 03:01 AM
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29. It's a sad, pitiful shadow of all that it might be
We were given the greatest foundation any nation could ask for, and we've allowed these madmen
to take over. I love my country, my family's been here three hundred years, but we're sliding
back to a state that would have horrified our founding fathers. My country is fine, but the
nation right now is a crock of shit.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:55 AM
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33. Have You Ever Traveled Outside This Country?
One thing I've learned from being pretty well traveled is that the myth that this country is the only good place in the world to live is false.
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aPOSITIVEwin Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:43 PM
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38. ???
Who said it was the ONLY good place to live?
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:32 PM
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48. So EXACTLY HOW would the New Orleans displaced blacks fit into
Your incredibly rose-tinted glasses view?

"We have our problems", yes we do, the government is being run by a bunch of Psychopath-Sociopaths who only give a fuck about the citizens who support them. You don't support them, then they leave you to starve, refuse water to be allowed to be brought to you, let you drown...and your city with it.

"Nothing is going to be perfect, but our country comes pretty close to it!", 'um, can you run that one by me again?

"The circumstances into which I could have had to live", what like the NOLA Superdome for example?

Hey, you're not John Gibson, Neil Cavuto or Sean Hannity are you?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:04 PM
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14. they're going to make examples out of a few key protestors
try 'em for treason in kangaroo court, just to scare the rest of us
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tirechewer Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:39 AM
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28. I share your concern...
I hate to think what Bush can do in three years if he really puts his back into it. For one thing, no matter what rumors they are floating in the press they are never going to give up on the war in Iraq or change how they wage it. All of the crappola they are giving as "solutions" is empty under close scrutiny. Any troop reductions Bush made to influence the midterms would be undone afterwords. He's SO good about keeping his promises.:sarcasm:

So this horrible sucking quagmire of a war will continue. If it does, there will eventually be a draft. The only way it will stop is if Congress yanks the funding.

The economy will struggle along as it is doing now with poverty increasing and the middle class shrinking until there is even more of a class divide than there is now. Food, shelter and health care will get more expensive. Gas prices will go up again as soon as Bush thinks he can sneak it by us again. People will suffer from the cold all winter this year. Maybe some will even die from it.

Medication will get more and more expensive because the Bush administration is heavily financed by drug company contributions. It will get harder to know when the medication you are taking is safe because the Bush FDA releases drugs that are not even marginally safe onto the market. I don't even want to take new medications anymore. The risk is too great.

He will try harder and harder to control dissent and punish those of us who disagree with him. I could go on, but then I would have to go and put my head in the toilet and flush it in order to stay sane. I think you all get the picture anyway.:rant:
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 04:58 PM
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40. air america had a small part
of a Cindy Sheehan speech. Cindy said that a friend of Bush (she said his name, but I can't remember) back in 1999 was with Bush when he said that his father had the initiative after the Gulf war and he blew it--that he would, after the war was created, use the initiative to get his policies passed, and not make the mistake of his father. This was in 1999, which means Bush had intended to create the war before he was even elected.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:15 AM
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43. Throw in the PNAC agenda
and you've got the makings for a full-blown disaster that won't be undone for years to come.
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Bob Smith jr Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:02 AM
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49. Bush is a sick
I am gay,I also see some gay tendences in Bush. I think he is homophobic and left many questions unansweared about his roommate at Yale.
Thats why he hates Gays,he is one himself
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