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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:27 PM
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Helen Thomas hits it out of the park! Again!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/3517584.html

Reduced to double talk in defending torture policy

By HELEN THOMAS


How long will the American people tolerate the shaming of their nation by the inhumane treatment of prisoners of war and the spiriting of detainees to secret prisons outside the United States?

Is it any wonder that other countries believe that America has lost its moral purpose by surrendering our well-earned reputation for human rights?

<snip>

God, I love this woman. She speaks for me.:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:28 PM
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1. K&R.
Peace.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:31 PM
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4. Happy Holidays, UL!!!
I wish you and your loved ones a season of peace...:hug:

Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 11:00 PM
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15. All the very best to you and your family in the New Year, fooj!
Peace, my friend.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:29 PM
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2. Helen,
We miss you. Please come back. We promise to be good if you'll stay.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:35 PM
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10. Was she a member of DU?
:shrug:
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:13 PM
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21. Don't I wish
She could contribute quite a few thoughts, of that I'm sure.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:30 PM
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3. I'd wade through leech-infested swamps to go listen to Helen speak.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:31 PM
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6. LOL!!! I know what you mean.
Peace.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:31 PM
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5. From the article: "renditions"
— the secret transport of terrorist suspects from the country where they were captured "to their home country or to other countries where they can be questioned, held or brought to justice."

Rendition is a "vital tool" in combating international terrorism, she (Rice) said.

I don't get it; why is rendition a 'vital tool', and where did the US learn that from, and has it ever been used before in other wars?
And I agree, fooj; Helen rocks!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:34 PM
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8. Found some info on "rendition"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendition

Peace.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:47 PM
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11. Thanks, fooj. So we've been using this 'practice' for awhile. nt
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:52 PM
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24. Confused about two statements in the article:
Sounds like Reagan rolled out the practice and Clinton gave the CIA permission to use it but who was doing it before the CIA and what part of government is now misusing it the most?

1)"Since the 1980s, the United States has increasingly turned to rendition as a judicial and extra-judicial method for dealing with foreign defendants. "

2)"The CIA was granted permission to use rendition in a presidential directive that dates to the Clinton administration, although very few uses were documented during that time. "
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:33 PM
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7. She's my hero.
She is smart and gutsy and not afraid of these maniacs. We need more journalists like her.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:34 PM
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9. WOW, Have Always Loved Helen!!
She Will really be missed! :bounce:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:50 PM
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12. Mount St. Helen
:patriot:

Blows them away.... again!!!

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 08:31 PM
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13. Thank god someone has the courage to be honest!
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 08:33 PM by nicknameless
BEAUTIFULLY stated, as usual!

I LOVE Helen Thomas!!!

Nominated
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 11:20 PM
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16. A paragon of journalism...
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:12 PM
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14. She is so darn wonderful it makes me .....
wonder why the fuck their aren't more like her? We are blessed with Will Pitt and Helen Thomas and few else.




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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:04 AM
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17. I too love and respect Helen Thomas. Someone
should e-mail her this thread and let her know how much we appreciate her speaking out.

She's just a little lady, but has more guts than any of the MSM!!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:49 AM
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18. That's a wonderful idea!
Peace.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 07:29 AM
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20. Helen replies to e-mails
She rocks!
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:16 PM
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30. Do you happen to have her e-mail address? Appreciate it!
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 07:21 PM
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35. For shame!
You "respect" her with talk like this: just a little lady

She's a warrioress. An aging one, it's true, just as we are all aging daily. But don't imagine that aging necessarily or automatically diminshes her prowess. I think you owe her an apology.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 05:21 AM
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19. Helen deserves to be declared a Saint...
of the DU kind...she's a real journalist.:patriot:
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:16 PM
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22. What's the definition of a saint?
I've always thought of it as some entity that watches over you, that protects you from harm, that sees danger and alerts you to it.

I think she has it all covered! Oh, maybe I've launched into hyperbole, but can you think of a journalist who has been a watchdog to the Executive branch of the government that you'd trust as much?
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:41 PM
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23. Washingtonian Magazine just listed Washington's Top 50 Journalists
Guess who wasn't on it? :wtf:

Helen Thomas is without question (ask any steno - er- Journalist in DC) the top journalist in town. It amazes me that this idiotic magazine had the gall to include Bob Novak and Judy Miller (not journalists at all, but celebrity hacks), and omit the Dean of the Washington Press Corps. :mad:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 05:13 PM
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27. Fuck them and
Viva Helen! :headbang:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 07:32 PM
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29. I wrote them and demanded a correction
and a prominent apology.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:31 PM
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32. She's now a columnist
She has an opinion-oriented column now, she doesn't do straight reporting anymore. That could be why she wasn't on the list.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:58 PM
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33. That's true of most of the imbeciles on the list.
Nobody does reporting - they're all presstitutes and pundits. She at least asks hard questions and gathers hard facts to base her opinions on.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:54 PM
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34. Yep, there are a few
About 3/4 of the list is pure shit, you're right. But there are a few bright spots, Sy Hersh and John Walcott, at least.

http://www.wonkette.com/politics/washingtonian/50-of-washingtons-most-jounalists-140456.php
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:05 AM
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36. I'll agree with that.
I think Sy Hersh is very brave indeed. I will have to learn more about Walcott.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:05 PM
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37. Walcott, DSM
He was big in getting the DSM story into the media here, I think he broke it here. He's been one of the few who has reported truthfully on Iraq from the beginning.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:45 PM
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25. I love her too, fooj
:applause:
She always goes for the truth of the matter.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 05:10 PM
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26. Helen Rocks!
She deserves a Presidential Medal of Freedom!
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 05:44 PM
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28. Helen Thomas
is a woman of intelligence and integrity. I also adore her. She is what a journalist aspired to be when I was in school. And if we weren't as intelligent - we could still be honest. Damn few of those "i" genes in the current "Barbie & Ken' mediaworld.


:loveya: For Helen!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:27 PM
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31. Condi...paging Dr. Condi
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