Unbelievable! Bush said, basically, that even knowing that the WMD report

was bogus, he'd still invade if had to do it all over again.

If that's not a criminal confession, I don't know what is.

(I'm listening to the Malloy archive from last night via RadioPower.org, sorry if this has already been discussed to death)

oil.

Dontcha know! :crazy:

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That, and when he said last week that it's 'hard work' trying to reverse the damage caused by a cruel dictator. How true.

bogus?

had WMD, there would've been no invasion. Period.

I just didn't think that JR Bush would actually spill the beans like he just did.

He said knowing now what he knows now, he would still do the same thing. Heck, John Edwards made the exact same comment, but he at least said it back in October of 2003. Virtually all of the Democrats who favored the invasion have apologized by now. A hell of a lot more has gone wrong since the U.S. failed to find WMD in Iraq. That was known back in 2003. Bush is still saying this crap in December of 2005, with several hundred Billion dollars down the drain, thousands of Americans killed, tens of thousands of Iraqis killed, with Al Quada recruitment soaring, with all the torture scandals, with Iran poised to virtually take over half of Iraq etc. etc. etc.

and not Edwards that said that. Do you have a link for that Edwards quote? I'd really like to see it. Thanks.

that 30,000 Iraqis and over 2,000 Americans would lose their lives would you still have invaded Iraq?" And if he says YES, then they should ask why?

that Congress would not have approved if THEY had known the WMD was bogus!

I'm really sorry for my cynicism, but it's hard to suppress sometimes.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

"Knowing that Americans, Congress, the Senate and the world would never condone a deliberate invasion into a foreign country with no justifiable cause of imminent threat - how could you sell the war?"

That is the rub isn't it? Just goes to show that he knew all along - and nothing - I repeat nothing would stop the invasion once George decided.....and he decided long before he even went to the UN.

It is a crime against the civilized world, a crime against humanity - a war crime. And if Tookie Williams had to pay with his life for murdering 4 innocents - then perhaps the same fate should apply to George - murderer of over 32 000 souls.

"Do they think we're Retarded?!"

Here, Celebrate the Season with some "Treason's Greetings":


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Not that he would invade, that he would vote for the IWR.

PNAC spelled it all out way before the invasion - heck, it's the reason they installed that incompetent piece of shit into the White House

is that he would say this in public.

he says he accepted responsibility for invading - but then blames Saddam for making him (bush*) invade and pardons himself (bush*) from accountability by blaming faulty intelligence...

yeah - I accept responsibility for eating the cookies but it's YOUR fault for baking them in the first place... :eyes:

Madam Zoloff predictions:

1. token number of troops will be pulled out of Iraq in time for 2006 mid-term elections, thus reframing the issue of "victory in Iraq" and giving repug candidates a "new improved" platform

2. should repugs retain control of the gummint - more troops will be pulled out of Iraq and sent into Iraq by spring 2007. Booga-Booga-mushroom-cloud time

he says he accepted responsibility for invading - but then blames Saddam for making him (bush*) invade and pardons himself (bush*) from accountability by blaming faulty intelligence...

yeah - I accept responsibility for eating the cookies but it's YOUR fault for baking them in the first place... :eyes:

Madam Zoloff predictions:

1. token number of troops will be pulled out of Iraq in time for 2006 mid-term elections, thus reframing the issue of "victory in Iraq" and giving repug candidates a "new improved" platform

2. should repugs retain control of the gummint - more troops will be pulled out of Iraq and sent into Iraq by spring 2007. Booga-Booga-mushroom-cloud time

believes that most Amerikans feel that the illegal invasion of Iraq was and is justified because Saddam had to be over thrown. When he answered 30K Iraqis killed it was like he was reporting that number of ants had been killed. This man is a true Sociopath.

We need to win Congress next November.

Bubble Boy thinks he is nothing wrong in Iraq. He knew he was lying when he ran up to the war. He knew he was lying when he invaded Iraq. He used Intel he knew was forged and unreliable to shore up his case and manipulate people's fears of another Terrorist attack.

It was calculated and cynical and it worked. Maybe he didn't think he would ever be caught, or maybe he counted on the fact that even if he was caught, it would be too late for Congress and the people to stop him.

But then if you look at the make up of Congress, even some of the Democrats there, who is actually going to try and stop him? This is going to be long, slow and painful. There will still be a war in Iraq after he leaves office. He made his mess, and like always someone else is going to have to clean it up.