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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:29 PM
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Allen to reverse stance on crimes against gays
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 10:31 PM by SCRUBDASHRUB
http://timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1128768682696&path=%21news&s=1045855934842

Senator Allen (unfortunately, one of the senators representing VA, where I live) is such a piece of shit!! Why can't we get someone to run against him?

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WASHINGTON - Sen. George Allen, R-Va., after coming under fire from some social conservatives for a 2004 vote, plans to reverse course next time and oppose making hate crimes against gay people a federal offense.

When it comes before the Senate again, he will vote against adding sexual orientation to federal hate-crimes statutes," Mike Thomas, Allen's state director, said yesterday. In 2004, Allen voted the opposite way on an amendment in the Senate.

"I wouldn't define it as a flip-flop," Thomas added.

Joe Glover, president of the Virginia-based Family Policy Network, was among those who pressed for a change. He told The Washington Times after Allen's 2004 vote that Allen "can count on us to expose him as a conservative fraud." Allen is preparing to seek re-election to the Senate next year and may run for president in 2008.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:42 PM
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1. I wouldn't define it as a flip-flop?
Gee, just what should we call it? Can I go into class tomorrow and define 2 + 2 as equal to 5?
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:44 PM
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2. For real. I can not stand Allen! Grrrrrrrrrrr...........
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:35 PM
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3. NOBODY is running against him from the dems party? nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:24 AM
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4. George Allen has marshmallows for balls.
And brains to match.

I'm uneasy about his chances at the top of the GOP ticket in '08 because he's younger than McCain and shrewder than the CAT BUTCHER.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:31 AM
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6. Shrewd hell
He's an apologist for the president. I'm hoping as the prez goes down, so does this guy.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:36 AM
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7. Hey LittleClarkie ! So nice to bump into you again here.
Ok, I really like your assessment better than mine. And Dubya's numbers are lower than a sewer grate, so there's evidence to support your claim.

Down with the GOP! Down with Dubya!

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:40 AM
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8. Howdy! Maybe he's moving away from it now
but I've heard plenty of speeches from him on the Senate floor that defied reason. He needed to remove his lips from Bush's ass badly.

Any evidence that he's figured out that the Prez is poison and that he needs to back away?

He reminds me of Teresa's assessment of Rick Santorum "Forrest Gump with an attitude."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:44 AM
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9. Bingo on all counts, LC.
I don't think Allen has much mobility in Virginia. He may feel he's locked into whatever John Warner says and does. It leaves him clear of first-line blame but stifles his voice as an "independent" Republican.

If McCain's health holds, I think he'll be the nominee in '08. If it doesn't, Allen will beat THE CAT BUTCHER, I think.

Loved your mention of Teresa's Santorum characterization, too. Had almost forgotten it and then there it was. Much appreciated.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:27 AM
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5. Ya gotta admit about the wingnut fundies...
They know how to exert some discipline when they see fit. Threatening in the media to expose him as a conservative fraud. See how quickly he got in line?

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:56 AM
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10. What an asshole!
I bet you if it was a gay guy who did that to a straight person he would be all over it! Asshole! I can't stand this! My country is just full of racial homophobic assholes. I can't stand it anymore!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:10 AM
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11. Allen is a conservative fraud !?!
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