A stolen elections xmas package ..... all wrapped up and pretty.

Leon County FL Supervisor of Elections, alleges fraud in 2000 elections.
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<----After watching his computer expert change vote totals this week, Sancho said that he now believes someone on the inside did the same think in Volusia County in 2000.

"Someone with access to the vote center in Volusia County put it on a memory card and uploaded it into the main system," Sancho said-----

http://www.wesh.com/news/5542983/detail.html

Voting machines used in four Central Florida counties might be flawed.

There's new evidence that computer hackers could change election results without anyone knowing about it, WESH 2 News reported.

The supervisor of elections in Tallahassee tested voting machines several times over the last several months, and on Monday, his workers were able to hack into a voting machine and change the outcome. He said that same thing might have happened in Volusia County in 2000.

The big controversy revolves around a little black computer card that is smaller than a floppy disk and bigger than a flash drive. The card is inserted into voting machines that scan paper ballots. The card serves as the machine's electronic brain.>

Any bets when the "liberal media" will get on this story? Bet ya they will be all over this like white on rice.
What do you think front page of the NY Times? Lead story on CBS? Fox news will send out a factor investigation
to look into this? But then again there is that missing girl in Aruba.

Even though the mysterious 16,000 vote in Volusia county were taken out later "those votes" caused
all the news organizations to pull their calls that Al Gore won Florida and that is when the "fun" started.
You know, when Baker and all those Enron lawyers started flying to Florida on Enron jets and so on.


And not that there is any connection but look at what the repubs are pushing through
in Ohio (and other states too): "exempts electronic voting machines from public scrutiny"
Bottom line "they" know that "they" have been cheating and all those exit polls were not
wrong in 2000, 2002 (Max Cleland in Georgia a 15 point plus shift of support), and 2004.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/29292/
"The End of Democracy in Ohio"
Excerpt:

A law that will make democracy all but moot in Ohio is about to pass the state legislature and to be signed by its Republican governor.

HB3's most publicized provision will require positive identification before casting a vote. But it also opens voter registration activists to partisan prosecution, exempts electronic voting machines from public scrutiny, quintuples the cost of citizen-requested statewide recounts and makes it illegal to challenge a presidential vote count or, indeed, any federal election result in Ohio. When added to the recently passed HB1, which allows campaign financing to be dominated by the wealthy and by corporations, and along with a Rovian wish list of GOP attacks on the ballot box, democracy in Ohio could be all but over.

The GOP is ramming similar bills through state legislatures around the U.S., starting with Georgia and Indiana.



I wonder if any of these soldiers would like a chance for a "do over?"

Like Bush on Rice

..... so I am betting on Aruba stories and how good things are going in Iraq.

If the repugs in Ohio didn't already know that the machines were dirty they would not
be drafting legislation to prevent outside parties from look into them.

To me it is like when my dog would sleep on my bed when I was gone and when I
came home there was a warm spot on the bed and he would try to slink by me.

officials estimated voter turnout could have been as high as 70 percent!

Hmm, 70% for all of Iraq? or 70% in 1 province?


Diebold voting machines?

:sarcasm:

hahahhahahhahahaha

Like Bush on Rice

Very funny !!!

soon the levees will break. Nobody anticipated our Category Five dedication.

:thumbsup:

The 2000, 2002, & 2004 elections stink. The exit polls were right it was
the voting crimes that were wrong.

Any guess when the main stream media is going to apologize about being so wrong?

:)

Otherwise, I predict slinking.

A word I learned in the seventh grade but never really understood until the year 2000. :)

Is the fight to see those uncounted ballots still going on? If not, did the press consortium who recounted Florida ask to see them?

It seems to me that $500K could be raised by DU alone. 80K people, donating $6.25 each, is $500K. Hmm. Let's recount Ohio!

What really worries me is that they'll switch to ES&S, no more reliable than Diebold. And, a for Ohio, is is constitutional to outlaw the right to challenge the election results? That seems iffy.

I was going to join the DNC as a precinct chair, but as I thought about how to best spend 2006, I think I'd rather get involved with the Fair Elections folks. Without that, nothing else matters.

..... it was as dirty as the elections. The precincts that were supposed to be chosen @ random weren't
Triad elections services went to at least 8 different counties "working" on the machines prior to the
recount ..... Hocking County being the most egregious ..... In Licking County they stoped the re count after
the numbers didn't match and then installed new hardware into the machines over the weekend .... after that
the #s matched ....... and bush / Cheney 04 paid Nathan Sproul & associates over million $s for "work' during
the recount ..... also 3 low level Cuyahoga have been indicted for their actions during the recount.

BTW the Ohio Dem party on the state and local levels MUST HAVE had some dirty people too.

Counting every ballot on their own for "experimental" purposes. Not the official "recount". And the $500K I was refering to was for the future, not the past.

After FL in 2000, it was The Media Consortium Florida Ballot Project. http://www.aei.org/docLib/20040526_KeatingPaper.pdf

:hi:

Guaranteed that the ballots have been lost an access to data will be damn near impossible.
Only trial, impeachment, and full on aggressive look by the FBI will turn up anything.

The level of corruption in this state is wild.

But Jeb is going to full tilt scrambly mood in your state ..... don't test the machines .... test the testers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1993137

I still don't see the benefits of switching from Diebold to ES&S. At least with the Op/Scan, it's hackable, but there's paper. ES&S = Black Hole.

That the Bush f'n way: weave and bob, distract and obstruct. Shoot the messenger. I fear for Mr. Sancho. I also hold out little hope for our new SoS, Ms. Cobb. You know Jebbie made that an appointed, rather than an elected position, right? So, Sue's in it just to do her dirty work for 2006, and then, depending on who the new Guv is, she may be asked to take a hike. "My work here is done..."

show that EE&S and Diebold are one in the same. Run by Brothers but financed by the same person
a "born again" nut job call Ahmason. Bob & Todd Urosevich head the companies. They controll 80%
of the vote in the U.S..

I might be wrong but a sense a sea change just about to overwhelm bush & company. And if I am reading
it right the anti terrorist domestic spying covered Sen. Boxer, Michael Moore, & Daily KOS.

We really have crooks running the country.

What is the buzz in Florida on the Diebold story?

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051217/NEWS01/512170316/1010

They seem to think this will change things... Poor, sweet Tallahassee Democrat. (shakes head in pity)
It's got a lot of backgroud


"Bush said Sancho's test was flawed because the Diebold system couldn't be hacked from outside and Sancho has let an organization called Black Box Voting, along with Finnish security expert Harri Hursti, simulate attacks on computer systems in ways that could never occur in a real election.

"It wasn't perfect," Bush, laughing, said of the test."

There's very little buzz at the moment. But we're apathetic as a rule, and there's all that sunshine and fishing and golf. Not to mention Christmas coming up and all.

It seems it's getting into local papers, but I haven't searched the TV yet. I'll go look and see if any of my locals have it on their sites.