How Low Will Chimpy's Numbers Go Now?

Looks like his "popularity" "surge" is OVERRRRRR!

base, evangelical Xtians, right wingnuts etc, his mother?

;)

I don't think he can sink a whole lot lower than 33% or so. I could see maybe 30% at the worst.
We've become so polarized in this country that certain segments will always believe their people, and always be convinced of the evil of the other side. I don't think we'll see another case like Truman at the end of his presidency, or Hoover at the end of his, in our lifetimes.

"Every limbo boy and girl,
All around the limbo world,
Loves to do the limbo rock,
All around the limbo clock!"

... by this time next year, Fox will be featuring the banner headline:
"President's Numbers Rebounding! Will soon be back in double digits!"

But come January, the bills come due and the public wakes up from it's 2 weeks of quasi and serious debauchery to a stack of debt and other bad news.

I say by the end of January, Bush is back around 38%.

I think there is now a sea change occuring. Lots of reasons for it.

Ever since his election, I've seen Bush as a convenient figure head for those who wanted to use the power of the Presidency. He was just smart enough, trainable enough, to get elected, and just dumb enough to be unable to defend himself when the real power brokers see the scheme falling apart and use him as a patsy.

Why now?

Iraq is obviously a quagmire, and an albatross around everyones neck. Even Cheney can't avoid being tripped by it.

Scandals too numerous to list here are no longer fading away. Republican culprits are being dragged reluctantly into courtrooms, being actually indicted, perhaps actually charged, perhaps even convicted.

The news media is beginning to actually LOOK INTO stories, rather than just regurgitating Administration handouts. Worse, the public is beginning to PAY ATTENTION.

For a long time things were held together by the actions of Karl Rove and his staff. But now that Rove himself is in hot water, that's no longer a strong factor.

The whole deal is threatening to unravel explosively, uncontrollably. And that makes the REAL powers nervous. So it's time for them to pull the plug.

For me, the first true sign of this was todays story of Bush secretly ordering the NSA to spy inside the US on US citizens. That's a story that Rove would NEVER have allowed to leak. But now, it points a steady finger straight at Bush. It aligns EVERYTHING against Bush. Secret acts. Domestic spying against the people. Abusing 9/11 powers. It generates the kind of noise that can cover a multitude of sins by others. Cheney ordered torture? That was against foreign terrorists. But BUSH illegally SPIED on YOU! This story has been held back for this exact moment.

Another recent sign. He's been taking reporters QUESTIONS. First time in years. Because, it was early discovered, when he adlibs, he shoots himself in the foot. Well, he'd better by some armored shoes.

Bush has already been pushed off the plank. He just doesn't know it. Yet.

"His" cabinet wants him in the headlines as the Fit hits the Shan. So everthing sticks to him, and not them. Republicans who want seats in Congress and the Senate NEED Bush out of the way. When they see the feeding frenzy start they'll dive right in. I see Bush being impeached by Spring, momentarily replaced by a "reluctant" Cheney, who will immediately have a poor, grandfatherly heart problem and have to step down, leaving the House Speaker in charge. (Unprecedented.) This will get Bush and all this administrations scandels out of the way for the 2006 election season, give the power shuffling Republicans no end of chances to speak with the press, and most likley leave the Democrats to wave election banners in the background of news clips, unless they do something spectacular.

But Bush? He's toast.

I would celebrate, but we're still in Iraq, still in debt up to our craniums, and still under Republican thumbs.

Who knows. I could very well be wrong?

mid-30's to low-40's. That's his base. He's have to do something DRASTIC to lose them.

There are plenty of people who would be persuaded that that is why we did not have any attacks here. The "enemy lurking" line works wonders -- here, or in Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany. Hope I am wrong.

Soon after he'll fall like a rock. When people snap out of the christmas spirit and see those nice little double minimum payments the CC companies have waiting for them... They'll wake the fuck up real quick.

Because we need to allow THEM to pretend that they cleaned up this mess. It's one of the ways we will allow them to "save face" over this catastrophe. I'm actually of the opinion that this is what the Dems are "waiting" for. The GOP needs to pick a leader, and either have it be McCain or have McCain back that person's efforts. This is what we want, it keeps the reactionary right from feeling too humiliated...and reacting. McCain himself is only dragging his feet because he's not yet convinced anyone to take the fall and lead the charge, so that McCain can "swoop in" and "pick up the pieces" in preparation for '08. McCain is still trying to figure out the best way to protect his own interests.