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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:47 AM
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As we ponder impeachment, let's make sure we get it right
It appears to me, and to many in these parts that a serious breach of public trust, as well as of the law, has been committed by Dear Leader. Impeachable offenses, without a doubt.

But as we discuss it, let's please frame it correctly. It's *not* "George Bush must be impeached." No, no, no.

It's "George Bush AND Dick Cheney must be impeached."

If Denny Hastert had knowledge of the program and said/did nothing, we add him to the list. Same goes for Ted Stevens, President Pro Tem of the Senate.

The point here is that everyone who tacitly covered these felonies must be held accountable.

But above all, don't leave "Big Time" Dick any wiggle room. Dear Leader said yesterday that the whole thing was his idea. Anybody buying that?

Impeaching Bush is worthless if it leaves us with "President Cheney." Ewwwwwwwww! That made a cold chill run down my spine.
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Lyle Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:50 AM
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1. True...We need to impeach the whole clan..
...not just King George. The whole cabal is a cancer and we must not leave any cancerous cells in control.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:00 AM
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2. What's more, to be fair
we need to know which Democrats had knowledge of the program and remained silent. No presidential campaigns for them!

Jay Rockefeller, for instance, had knowledge and knew it was wrong. He knew as of July 2003. He wrote a letter, not to Dear Leader, but to "Big Time" Dick and kept an identical, hand-written copy in a safe. I want to be generous here, but the question remains: at what point does the countenancing of treason become treason itself?

If Joe Six-pack (remember Joe), for instance, witnessed a murder, had knowledge of it, and remianed silent, he'd be liable as an accessory after the fact.

Doesn't the silence of the Congressmen and Senators who were told and stood mute amount to the same thing?

There is shame in silence.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:18 AM
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3. Agreed, shame in silence, but we have to keep in mind
how much information is being withheld from even those within our government. If congressmen and senators didn't have enough information to back up their suspicions and they have been on a fishing expedition for the past year, which is what I expect is the case, they couldn't just start accusing.

My guess is they now have enough evidence to come forward with these allegations and feel comfortable that the royal crime family cannot find a way around them. Just take a look at the news this morning and you can see there is a huge spin now regarding the kings RISING support.

It makes me sick to think the typical idiot out there will see those numbers and jump to his majesty's defense, but that is the unfortunate reality of media brainwashing in this country right now. The excuse for this stupidity is that it is the right thing to invade EVERYONES privacy to prevent another 911. Somehow they forgot the fact that 911 WAS preventable, but our fearless leader wasn't in the mood to listen!

Why can't these people connect the dots?!?!?!?
:grr:
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:31 AM
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4. Bob Graham has already said over the weekend
that he wasn't told what the mis-Administration claims. And last night, in an interview on Nightline, Dick Cheney said, in not so many words, that Graham wasn't telling the truth.

Josh Marshall at www.talkingpointsmemo.com has the actual letter Rockefeller wrote after his meeting with Cheney, and it makes clear he knew what was happening. Even so, Rockefeller still had to ask permission to put it out. At some point, our representatives are going to have to learn to act for themselves.

Can you imagine that? Rockefeller asked the White House's permission to tell America what he knew.

We are witnessing the shift from Republic to Empire.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:39 AM
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5. The Empire is most definitely in charge...
"Even so, Rockefeller still had to ask permission to put it out. At some point, our representatives are going to have to learn to act for themselves."

I guess the ONLY option for our elected officials at this point is leakage. Having to ask the permission of the White House to release information regarding the VIOLATION of our Constitution by our Executive branch is just plain ludicrous. Why did he have to ask permission? What would the consequences have been? Are they just CYA ing or do they think there are other, more serious consequences?

There is NO power in any other branch of our government right now and I am amazed they let it get this far.

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