So whats happening, are the telecommunication companies

like Verizon, T-Mobile, Comcast at all giving the NSA records of all of our phone and e-mail communications? What kind of a bureaucracy has been set up to review all of this data? Thousands of people sworn to secrecy, sitting by their computers and other equipment,listening for key words so they can zone in on any conversations or communication they find tempting? Did they enjoy me e-mail to my sister for Mom's old recipe for meatloaf? Is that subversive? How about my call to the Animal Rescue about the abandoned cats living in my neighborhood? How far is this lunacy going to go? I feel as though I cannot say or do anything without some snoop looking over my shoulder. This whole spy story is getting weirder by the day. I trust our esteemed congressmen are enjoying their Christmas day but don't answer the phone or send an e-mail. Whats next, open the mails? My gas bill will be really revealing. Much higher cost this year, showing more therms. More frequent oil deliveries..something must be up. Lots of things turning up on my spy-ware scans. Good grief, I'm getting paranoid about my paranoid government.

imagine they are listening to everyone, who knows who is being listened to? I'm with you; there's nothing here to bother with, but who knows what can be fabricated, and has been?.
OT, but they can't find translators, Sibel Edmonds, a TRANSLATOR, is persona non grata, but "THEY" can listen to the mundane, and why are they doing it?

Arnold over at Drudge is trying to catch every word you just said:



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(just kidding yy4me).. it is pretty scary.. you're right..

It's too late. They've been monitoring us for 4 years, we're already identified. We can't do anything about it.

Front page of NYTimes Saturday had the article. The telecommunications companies (don't know which ones yet) have been turning over masses of data regarding who calls who, when, where, for how long. One person they quoted said that getting content is nice, but the really important information is the patterns and links they can get out of the who called who info. So, they probably didn't actually see the meatloaf recipe, but they know you communicate with your sister, who else you communicate with, who she communicates with, when, how often -- all the links.

I know phone companies and ISPs have long been tapped, long in co-operation with the government. Friends at ISPs have told me about FBI coming in and presenting court orders for web records, (usually child porn related) which is normal stuff. Also, there was a semi-classified FBI document leaked at cryptome.org, giving the specs for VoIP survelliance to the companies developing it, and the system looked fairly automated. But that's all nothing. The real thing is here is to look at what's going on outside court supervision, at the high levels of the company in co-operation with Bush's illegal desires. What emerges is a picture of total corruption of the governmen through corporate power. Its astounding, it makes me blink.