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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:15 AM
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NYT's today reports on NSA's large data-mining operations within the U.S.
This information is, unfortunately, at the end of the article.

January 2, 2006
Bush Defends Legality of Domestic Spy Program

By ERIC LICHTBLAU


Mr. Bush also emphasized that the program was "limited" in nature and designed to intercept communications from known associates of Al Qaeda to the United States. He said several times that the eavesdropping was "limited to calls from outside the United States to calls within the United States."

That assertion is at odds with press accounts and the public statements of his senior aides, who say that the authorization for the program requires that one end of a communication - either incoming or outgoing - be outside the United States. The White House, clarifying the president's remarks after his appearance, said later that either end of the communication can in fact be outside the United States.

Despite a prohibition on eavesdropping on phone calls or e-mail messages that are regarded as purely domestic, The Times has reported that the N.S.A. has accidentally intercepted what are thought to be a small number of communications in which both ends were on American soil, due to technical confusion over what constitutes an "international" call.

Officials also say that the N.S.A., beyond actual eavesdropping on up to 500 phone numbers and e-mail addresses at any one time, has conducted much larger data-mining operations on vast volumes of communication within the United States to identify possible terror suspects.

To accomplish this, the agency has reached agreements with major American telecommunications companies to gain access to some of the country's biggest "switches," carrying phone and e-mail traffic into and out of the country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/02/politics/01cnd-spy.html?ei=5094&en=9ff551c41e38344a&hp=&ex=1136178000&adxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1136205502-SkVxp7ckPwdLVpMzZoU1rg
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:36 AM
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1. accidentally?!!!!
Despite a prohibition on eavesdropping on phone calls or e-mail messages that are regarded as purely domestic, The Times has reported that the N.S.A. has accidentally intercepted what are thought to be a small number of communications in which both ends were on American soil, due to technical confusion over what constitutes an "international" call.


accidentally?!!!!! Really?!!!! i bet bush's frying ass it was, "accidentally!"
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:37 AM
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2. I agree. Sounds like an excuse a child would make.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:48 AM
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3. yes, and have you noticed all of the childish excuses bush makes to
defend himself always and at all times?

the man is an infantile moron who happens to stand as figure head for the power right now!

ultimately, the power is poppy's because even dick cheney and cotralteza lice owe their asses to poppy.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:07 AM
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4. Just like they 'accidently' put cookies on our computer
Why don't we just shut all these secret agencies down and spend the money helping people instead. We'd sure be a lot closer to world peace if we could.

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Bruce McAuley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:50 AM
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6. Unfortunately, world peace is not good for business...
Or we'd have it right now.
Damn Nazis.

Bruce
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:13 PM
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8. yesterday c-span had a replay of a rosalyn and jimmy carter talk at their
carter center .... it was so peace inducing to hear something other than terror, terrorist killers, war on terror, etc.etc.etc... the carters talked about helping africa to put in latrines as part of a program to erradicate illnesses etc., they also talked about teaching certain parts of africa how to care for their eyes by washing their faces so that their eyes, or sockets, wouldn't become esten up by mosquito (or mosquito larvae) to prevent blindness... and at some point, in talking about some african children who proudly showed them their latrines and how they use them, and how they wash their faces with clean water, rosalyn carter said, it is just so rewarding (i think is the word she used) that you just want to keep, and keep, and keep on, and keep keeping on doing this work!

so different Lord, so different from terror, terrorists, evil terrorists, terrorist killers... so different from bush family sickness.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:15 AM
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5. I wish this guy would just shut up. Someone needs to make him
understand over 3/4th of the American public know absolutely postively that he's nothing but a damn liar.

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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:01 PM
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7. It's amazing how the NYTIMES reports on this issue
(:eyes:) How much more do they know about domestic spying? If they would just report it all in one blockbuster piece then all the media would report it as such. Instead, the NYT just dribbles out the info in buried paragraphs.
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