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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:42 PM
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"If you've done nothing wrong"
then why fear wire taps? I finally heard that statement from a real live lemming. Swallowing the company line and repeating it as instructed. I carry a copy of the constitution (in book form) in my truck. I retrieved it and asked the dumbass selfish moronic citizen of our country to show me in the constitution where it states "if you've done nothing wrong." Stutter, stammer, disappear. I suspect the stock market broke 11K because there has been a rush on ignorance futures.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:44 PM
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1. If Bush wasn't doing anything wrong, why didn't he get a warrant?
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 02:45 PM by Pryderi
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:00 PM
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7. That's the perfect response right there, well done.
:thumbsup:
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:17 PM
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14. It's especially damning when there's a 72 hour grace period to get a
warrant after the fact. They have no, "we needed a wiretap because time was of the essence".
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:10 PM
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10. You're trying to apply logic to their argument. No fair!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:45 PM
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20. lovely, clear and simple...... just perfect!
It is the perfect balanced respose.. It practically SCANS!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:46 PM
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2. Alright well then the next time you and your wife are talking in private
I wanna be there to listen in I wanna hear everything c'mon what've ya got to hide?


ohhh what's that?? I think I just overheard the misses say something about the gas prices how the oil companies are crooks.


This bitch obviously hates Jesus and America she must be destroyed. Book 'er Dano!
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:47 PM
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3. Good for you!
:applause: :yourock:

They're not capable of thinking any farther than they're instructed to.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:50 PM
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4. That is when I ask....
Then surely you won't mind me setting up a chair and camera at the foot of your bed and maybe follow you into the bathroom on a random basis, will you?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:53 PM
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5. Roger that TominTib
If you've done nothing wrong then we will follow you around with audio and video equipment for the next six years okay. Since you are a bush supporter that should be no problem huh!!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:15 PM
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12. Know what I find curious BOSSHOG? That us vets seemed to get
a little more cranked up about this subject.

I think it's because when one has actually fought for a principle or right one tends to defend that turf a little more vigorously.

I do not intend to belittle the intentions and outrage of non-vets, just something I feel.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:28 PM
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15. No doubt about it Teammate
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 03:30 PM by BOSSHOG
One of the reasons we served is so that others would not have to and I am extremely proud of that. As you state, I'm cranked about this subject. I've been retired for three years but I still consider myself under oath and I have that oath of reenlistment on a coin on my "I love me" bookcase just a few feet away. Don't fuck with my constitution is the bottom line.

There are so many in this country who love the constitution and who did not have to serve because we did and that is a beautiful thing.
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:54 PM
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6. Misquided - Can't happen to them
I live in rural W Texas and I bet my phone conversations were intercepted at least once. My daughter was planning to move to London Sept 2005. Her roommate-to-be called us the morning of the London bombings in July to let us know everything was okay. Do you think this was listened to? People need to realize just how wide a net it is to "screen only international calls". I can't wait to tell my husband's RWing buddies that their calls to our house might have been screened. During the Clinton years, some of these guys wouldn't carry their driver's license in their wallets because they heard they were chipped.


AValdoux
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:05 PM
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18. Good point.
I live in Yorkshire about 15 miles from Leeds, where some of the July 7 bombers lived. On that day I had repeated calls from my family in Georgia and all the calls either had weird noises on them or were cut off altogether in mid-conversation.

Not far away in another direction from where I live is the NSA listening base at Menwith Hill, North Yorkshire, UK (Google it, it'll give you stuff that'll keep you awake at night). People have been telling me for years that my phone conversations are being listened to, not because I'm up to anything sinister, but just because they listen to everybody.
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:05 PM
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8. And why is limpballs not allowing the courts to "spy"
on his medical records if he didn't Doctor Shop?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:11 PM
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11. If he's done nothing wrong????
Trying to think like a conservative may lead to brain damage. And, doing more conservative thinking, if limpballs is innocent of anything he is accused of, what better way to prove that then to do the conservative thing and surrender his privacy. Oh what a nasty cess pool they reside in.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:09 PM
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9. I wonder, if these people obey all the traffic laws, would they
appreciate the police trailing them every time they leave their driveway. Maybe they wouldn't mind if every stop they made was monitored for length of stay, who was spoken too, etc. Maybe they are so patriotic that they wouldn't mind if the government bugged their home and set up surveillance cameras to see who came to visit them. Shoot, let's just open their mail, too, and pay a visit to their doctor, lawyer and accountant without their knowledge. I mean, if you've nothing to hide . . . .
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:17 PM
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13. You go Granny
Actually as we all know, conservatives have closets full of nothing to hide. They'd scream the loudest about "privacy" exposing tons more hypocrisy. I think you are on to something. Tail em all, survey em all, hell they have nothing to hide.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:32 PM
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16. Just ask 'em if they will mind when Pres Hillary
Clinton wants to spy on their phone calls. That should freak 'em out. Worked on at least one idiot I know. Also do what I did at Thanksgiving - suggest that maybe all the NSA would have to do to locate and maybe confiscate a lot of firearms in the US would be to get hold of the NRA membership list and do they trust the NRA not to turn it over.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:39 PM
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17. I'm telling you...
.... our education system is so lousy that most people who've come through it in the last 20-30 years are completely ignorant of the reasons the founding fathers wrote these protections into the constitution.

The idea of a government that abuses its power never occurs to these morons because they've never lived in a monarchy and because the were never taught even the basics of what America is all about.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:41 PM
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19. If you haven't done anything wrong, why do they need to wiretap you?
The burden to justify bypassing the Constitution rests with the government - THAT'S WHY THEY NEED TO GET A WARRANT!!
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