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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:41 PM
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If Hillary Clinton or Teresa Heinz Kerry had CRIED, would the MSM
be asking if Republicans had "gone too far"? Would Republicans be wracked with self-doubt? Would ANY of them offer any kind of apology?

Or would Limbaugh, Hannity, and their minions be cackling with glee, and mocking the pain and the public spectacle of an adult crying in public?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:45 PM
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1. The MSM and right wing noise machine would show NO sympathy..
whatsoever. I the God damn media.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:46 PM
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2. Oh god, if that had happened, Limpballs and Hannity would never let us
hear the end of it!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:03 PM
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9. And CNN and Faux would have the clip repeated on a loop n/t
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:47 PM
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3. The RW would have been THRILLED to see that, and they would
never have let the public forget about it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:50 PM
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4. Tweety is wringing his hands over this "travesty." nt
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:54 PM
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5. Tweets should just drop dead.
He is right wing shit. He said that the Democrats were involved in a "high school stunt". :wtf:?
This is a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. These are 9 very powerful people. We don't want the wrong person put on the court.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:56 PM
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6. isn't he imploding in his own partisanship before our very eyes? nt
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:57 PM
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7. H*ll, look how the lamestream media took and ran with the 'Dean Scream'
and crucified Dean for it! (and Dean did that just to rouse enthusiasm from his audience, as I recall - nothing negative in it at all).

There's a "different measure" for Dems and Repubs, that's for d*mn sure....justice is standing with 'uneven scales in her hand these days'
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:06 PM
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11. Yes but Dean came across like a lunatic with that performance
I'm sorry, but he did. I bet many people when they saw how Dean couldn't even handle losing Iowa, after he'd lost New Hampshire...I bet a lot of people questioned how he might of been able to handle a huge crisis or an international situation...when he couldn't even handle not winning Iowa.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:04 AM
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21. No he didn't (come off as a lunatic).....
...that's what the media TOLD everyone to believe (and obviously you did as you were told ~ good boy).

Dean handled himself in a very gracious and GENUINE manner.

I trust and like people who are genuine. I like Howard Dean :-)
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:24 AM
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24. No, he didn't come across like a lunatic at all...
that's just your perception. In reality, he was speaking to a very noisy, large crowd and wanted to pump up all the people who were supporting him. Everybody was yelling and screaming and Dean wanted to be heard so he screamed.

His yelling had nothing to do with losing Iowa and more to do with keeping everybody's hopes alive.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 12:46 PM
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33. Nonsense.
They isolated his voice.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:07 PM
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35. yeah, we know that NOW...but at the time....my son, a Dean supporter
at his IA caucus was very upset by the scream when he saw it on TV at the end of the tabulation reports

IMO, this shows the incredible power of the RW media machine....someone who really believed in Dean's message was manipulated by the media to question Dean and his own political convictions........the RW media destroys dem candidates and dems' confidence in themselves
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:58 PM
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8. Teresa and Hillary
are sharp and have brains and would never need to be coached to "cry on cue" by a weasel like Lindsey Graham.

But the media would have pilloried them had they been Ms. Alito today, no doubt.
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:05 PM
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10. And don't forget Elizabeth Edwards...
their treatment of her was unconscionable. In the face of filthy personal attacks she maintained her dignity and humanity. She paid the price with her health, though. SG
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:09 PM
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13. Elizabeth Edwards is a class act...just like Hillary Clinton is...and the
Repukes as we know are not known for being class acts...as we know they like nothing more than whining and crying.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:52 PM
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20.  Republican attacks gave her cancer?
I find that hard to believe.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:17 AM
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23. Not exactly...
but it's a known fact that stress weakens your resistance to disease and makes you more susceptible to certain illnesses if you have the gene for it.

It's really pretty complicated, however, one day doctors will be able to isolate defective genes and remove them to prevent all kinds of diseases.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 01:29 PM
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34. There was even nastiness after her diagnosis.
Remember the vicious online messages after it was announced that Elizabeth Edwards had been diagnosed with breast cancer? I saw some of the postings on forums at websites like Netscape and the like.

The sad thing is that the media encourages the viciousness in the name of ratings, and there's a fair bit of misogyny mixed in. When Roseanne did that screeching version of the national anthem, the tabloids ran covers titled "THE MOST HATED WOMAN IN AMERICA." Someone like Limbaugh can spew hate for decades on end and never get pilloried in the press. It's a sick situation.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:07 PM
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12. Exactly
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:10 PM
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14. It is all just too revoltingly disingenuous for me.
The touching scene of the devoted wife leaving in tears because her stand-up husband is being grilled....the gruff, righteous anger of the MSM and the Repuke Senators...it is all just a little too staged for me.

They are so GOOD at this, it is scary. You don't hear the reporters talking about WHY the tough questions were being asked...just that they offended the delicate sensibilities of the wife of a career DC player. Right.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:21 PM
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15. Come on Fitz, indict Rove!!! He is behind this.
As long as Rove is a free "man", we will have these kinds of PR stunts non stop.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:23 PM
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16. How would we have reacted if they did, and someone said
they were too unstable to continue, and that Kerry or Clinton should withdraw because of it?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:39 PM
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17. You got it exactly right. n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:13 PM
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18. Hillary and Teresa are certainly better looking...
It's a good point about how the MSM would have treated this whole thing differently...if Chelsea Clinton had cried, it would be a frickin' poster on every Repug's wall...if Hillary even showed the slightest emotion, she'd be pilloried. If Teresa had cried on Election Eve, again, it would be the big joke with the Freepers...

I would be equally sad if either Hillary or Teresa got to a point where they had to cry on TV,,,you know it would have been unfair and tasteless as to what would have made them get that emotional.

Alito's wife crying looked like she was getting antsy about the possibility that her husband's past was being exposed.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:21 PM
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19. I think they probably would.
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 11:24 PM by cat_girl25
Because they are women. Remember how the media was hard on Lazio when he approached Hillary Clinton during the debates?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:10 AM
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22. But she's a GOP poor baby
You know they are different. The elitists always hurt more than the rest of us, right?
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 10:42 AM
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25. NO
I was so angry that the media is making such a big deal about this. This ridicoulous. This women is weak so what. I do not care that she cried during the hearing.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 10:59 AM
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26. Mrs. Kerry did what Democratic women do
When confronted with a smarmy little shit of a right-wing shill reporter, she told him off, in spades. She got done dressing him down for his dishonest reporting, then went back and as a coda told him to "shove it."

Remember how that episode played out?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:14 AM
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27. We all know the answers to those questions, don't we?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:20 AM
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28. Teresa would NEVER have cried. She'd have told them to @!%! themselves!
Edited on Thu Jan-12-06 11:24 AM by zann725
And MSM called Teresa a "loose canon."

Please...crying on cue, and stomping from the room when your Judge/Husband's document production is being pursued...is the REAL loose canon behavior.

I'd take tough Teresa any day! She's my TRUE First Lady of choice...even yet!
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:30 AM
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29. Oh No they'd be "asking" doesn't it prove that all Democrats
are too flakey and weak to hold high office.
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foreverdem Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:39 AM
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30. They would have been stomped on
They would be referred to as weak women with no substance or guts, and it would be made a point that if they were too frail to handle it, they should have not been in the room.

Of course neither Teresa or Hillary would have been driven to tears. I never saw Hillary on tv bawling her eyes out during the whole Lewinsky affair.
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oneoftheboys Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 12:25 PM
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31. Yeah, sure...
because in our society, it is taboo to make the girl cry. It makes you look mean. Moreover, if it bleeds (or cries), it leads.

As far as Hannity & Limbaugh go--they would surely come up some of the most ridiculous excuses that you could possibly imagine.
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adolfo Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 12:36 PM
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32. Staged
I think it was a staged reaction to distract from the real issue.
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