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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:38 PM
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Dean raised 600,000 in the last 48 hours
To those who contiue to marginalize Dean and his record breaking grassroots support:

we’ve raised nearly $2 million in the week after Iowa, over $600,000 in the 48 hours

We're not going anywhere.

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:39 PM
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1. Nah, forget it
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 08:39 PM by jpgray
I posted something here, but I should just stay away from this forum.
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Joseph Thule Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:39 PM
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2. and? Dean has raised TWICE what anybody else has--and is still losing.
Money doesn't mean much at this point. The voters have spoken.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:40 PM
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4. Funny, I haven't voted yet
I guess my vote doesn't matter in this thing, huh?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:45 PM
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7. I haven't voted yet, either.
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 08:46 PM by BattyDem
But apparently, our votes don't count because we don't live in Iowa or New Hampshire. No offense intended toward DUers from either state - but you have to admit, the media does tend to marginalize the rest of us. :)

Anyway, Dean's still raising impressive amounts of money - I don't see how they can report a drop in donations. And hopefully, Roy Neel will put the money to better use.


edited for clarity
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:47 PM
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10. I agree
Indiana's primary is in May. It's almost always declared over before it gets to us, and a bunch of people here are sick of it.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:49 PM
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55. That is exactly why
Carl Levin tried, without avail, to get things changed. Senator Levin (MI) feels very strongly about this.

I believe I should be, at least, a rotating system.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #55
61. Did he?
He's my senator. Good for him!

I'm not too crazy about the current system either.
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:41 PM
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5. the voters in two states or even ten
determine the future for all 50?

lets just wait and see.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:41 PM
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6. The voters have spoken?
Just like Bush said they did in Florida, huh?
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Joseph Thule Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:46 PM
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9. huh?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:57 PM
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only 10% of delegates have been won through votes.....
what about the other 90%? How dare the 10% of votes speak for the 90% who haven't voted yet?
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Joseph Thule Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:59 PM
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16. Kerry has decisively won Iowa and NH. Two huge prizes.
Is Dean even polling 2nd in the Feb 3 states? I would say Clark is more of a threat longterm.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:05 PM
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20. kerry only won NH by thirteen points----that's not a huge win
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Joseph Thule Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:09 PM
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25. It is when Kerry was declared DEAD. And was behind 30 points at one time
Kerry is the real Comeback Kid.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:12 PM
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30. oh, Dean was declared DEAD after the IA "Scream" and came back
from 4th place in NH polls and got a second place win within a week.....if it had been a couple more days, Dean would've been much closer to Kerry, within five or six points.
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Joseph Thule Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:14 PM
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46. Came back to what? Lose 13 points to Kerry?
Dean was double digits up on Kerry for months. Kerry's campaign was declared dead by the media, and he proved them ALL wrong.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:36 PM
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48. Again, so what?
Why is it so maddening for you that we want to continue on our quixotic little quest?
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Joseph Thule Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:37 PM
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49. It isn't, but the constant Kerry bashing is ridiculous.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. A Kerry nomination scares me
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 10:41 PM by killbotfactory
I think he's the worst viable besides Lieberman.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:43 PM
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53. I assume that you missed all the Dean-bashing?
Oh, that's right... it was legitimate criticism. We can't have an unvetted candidate now, can we? :eyes:
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #46
54. Kerry's DLC endorsement is the kiss of death. Pro-war demo v. Bush?
Dean '04...
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:52 AM
Response to Reply #20
62. That sounds like Lieberman......
Fifth place is third. Okay. Sure.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. So what?
If I choose to continue to support Dean and send him money, what's it to you?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #9
26. You're calling the race..
long before it's over.

Taking your cues from Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris and Fox News.
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. The corporate media has spoken
the largest grassroots campaign the Democrats have seen in recent history continues to be marginalized.
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Joseph Thule Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:48 PM
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11. This is a silly argument.
Iowa and NH regularly vote for marginalized type candidates. ie Tsongas, Buchanan, McCain et al. This year I think people are serious about beating Bush. JMO
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:53 PM
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12. A silly argument?
Who runs this country? How was it that electability - the biggest non-issue in modern politics became the main issue in Iowa and New Hampshire? Dean has been electable for five elections, none of these candidates are unelectable, the very idea is a strange invention of the folks who live by selling fear.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:12 PM
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Your logic is a little flawed.
Republicans were "serious" about beating Gore. They were "serious" about beating Carter. Both TImes NH picked a guy that didn't win the nom.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:12 PM
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29. Your logic is a little flawed.
Republicans were "serious" about beating Gore. They were "serious" about beating Carter. Both TImes NH picked a guy that didn't win the nom.
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:38 PM
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50. I haven't voted yet
In fact, very few people have. Do you always let other people tell you what to do or what to think??
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:39 PM
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3. Congratulations!
That is a very, very impressive showing. :toast:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:56 PM
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13. thanks!
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:57 PM
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14. They say lack of orginaition was his problem. Now with new guy in charge,
he will help the Dean campaign get everything done in the most efficient manner. AND, the votors HAVe NOT spoken yet. If is insulting to all the other states to act we have to fall in line behind 10 or so states out of 50.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:57 PM
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15. Dean has very strong supporters
It's nice to be in such good company.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:00 PM
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17. What happened to the $41 million?
It went to TV ads. Goes to show ... literally.
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FubarFly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. We'll spend the next $41 million a little wiser
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 09:04 PM by FubarFly
I promise.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #17
23. What happened to Kerry's millions?
???
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:29 PM
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38. Shitty Trippi TV ads. Kerry had much better ads.
How much cash on hand does Kerry have after paying all of his current debts?
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:41 PM
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52. Incorrect
Do you make a habit of making uninformed statements? The Dean campaign has spent about $10 million on televising ads. The rest has gone to their grassroots wise spread campaign.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:00 PM
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18. $25 of it was from me.
Hangin' in there.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:06 PM
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22. Congratulations Dean supporters!
Amazing dedication and support! This is going to be one hell of a primary season all the way to the convention!
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:35 PM
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40. Thanks very much!
If I look up "gracious" in the dictionary, I'm sure I'll see your face!

(thumbing through pages...
Viola! There you are. Told ya.)

But don't be too nice to the Dean people, you'll get a nasty reputation. :evilgrin:

Best to you and the good Senator!
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. Well...
Aren't you just the sweetest thing! :toast:
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:07 PM
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24. it's over...I'm sorry
but Dean is done
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Well, I'll just keep tilting at that windmill
You don't mind do you?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. not at all, have at it...
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:14 PM
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31. Please don't....
It's not nice to rain on others parade. Dean is not done and I for one don't want him to be done. He brings a great deal of life to the party and debate. It wasn't long ago when various people were declaring Kerry, Edwards and Clark over, it's not over for any of the candidates.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:20 PM
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36. He has a future...that I agree on...
I think his best moments are ahead of him.

I just think this campaign is over...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #24
39. Done? Watch history in the making. Watch an amazing grass roots campaign
take over a campaign funded by a billionaire.

And, remember you heard it here first~!

Like the sigline, been feeling that way myself.
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #24
47. When less than 10% of the votes are cast
It's too early to call this thing.
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formactv Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:15 PM
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32. Dean has the most delegates!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:16 PM
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33. Boom shacka lacka lacka! n/t
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. di dada di dada di dada la di dada di dada di dada la.........
;-)
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:17 PM
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35. how true
you are NOT going anywhere.

Good money after bad. The fat lady HAS sung.
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
59. The corporate media has sung
which I suppose is the fat lady. The question is why can the fat lady live with a Kerry candidacy. Corporate America will embrace Kerry, has embraced Kerry. The American people, the grassroots will contiue to be marginalized, no suprise there really except that you seem to buy into it.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:57 AM
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64. Funny....I didn't read much guff from the Dean supporters
Here this summer and fall when the "corporate media" was all but performing oral on Dr. Dean and ignorning every other canidate in the race.
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Either that or the death rattle of a failed campaign.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:28 PM
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37. It helps to raise money from the *people* when you cant finance your
own campaign. ;)

GO DEAN!
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. I think Dean will take over the
comeback-kid title. There is another 6 months till the convention, and with that fire-in-the-belly sense of injustice for the people of this country, I have a feeling Dean will give it his all. His low key family life tells shows me authenticity that he's in it for the good of the country not the glory. And that passion will drive him to endure and perform. I must say, although would not wish at all for any relapse, I do have a small nagging worry a little bit about Kerry's health with the strain of campaigning so long and hard.
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jadesfire Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #37
56. Except he can't pay his staff
they've been asked to take a two week pay break.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:53 PM
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57. They're getting ready for a blitzkrieg after feb 3rd
And they are obviously not going to be raising much in the meantime.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:38 PM
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41. I think it's great that he's able to do this
Even though I want Clark to take the nomination I think it's terribly important for Dean to make it to the convention. Definately.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. Thanks!
:yourock:
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. Your welcome. The only one I REALLY want to drop out is Joe
All of the rest of our candidates have important things to say. Joe just makes us all look like brown nosing, delusional idiots.
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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:53 PM
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58. You'd think people would be thrilled....
that Dems can raise this kind of cash!

I know I have been kicking in $20 a month (see my sig) for the eventual nominee, and I started long before Dean was the front runner!

By the time of the convention is should be about $120.00, I also plan to kick in an additional $100 to the nominee....

I just have to say that the continual pissing on people's pride in this accomplishment is not very smart considering the fundraising prowess of the repubs....

If you piss off all these good people, how are you going to raise cash to compete against Bush?!

If not the people...than back to the special interests again?
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:22 PM
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60. Kick
:kick:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:53 AM
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63. "We're not going anywhere." - I think you're right.
Dean caught the Joe-mentum and he's going Joe-where.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:02 AM
Response to Reply #63
65. Thanks for kicking the good news!
:hi:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:23 AM
Response to Reply #65
66. Heheh, you're so funny. =D
=D
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