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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:16 PM
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Question to those bolting the Dem party over Alito
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 12:17 PM by quinnox
I'm curious to what degree how upset you all are that say you will quit the Dem party if Alito isn't filibustered.

Does that mean no votes for any Democrat candidate for office ever?

Or does it mean withdrawing financial support but still occasionally voting for Dem candidates in important elections such as president?

Or does it mean joining the Green party or some other alternative and voting only for their candidates?

Or {and I have seen this suggested} does it mean joining the Republican party and trying to change their policies - kind of a "behind enemy lines" strategy.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:18 PM
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1. I'm leaving the Democratic party
Just because! :sarcasm:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:19 PM
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2. I wonder how many of them were bolting the party over something else
some other time......

But then I also wonder how many are really Democrats to start with.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:24 PM
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3. Been a Democrat all of my life
Could never bring myself to vote Repig and what they stand for.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:26 PM
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5. Damn few, IMHO. nt.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:34 PM
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15. We wonder about the same things. (nt)
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:25 PM
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4. bottom line - there are votes on the left and votes on the right...
divide up the votes on the left and the rightie's will win everytime. i'd rather cut off my right titty then take part in aiding any rethug, no matter how pissed off i am at the particular dems in office now.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:30 PM
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6. For me, right now, its financial...nt
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:31 PM
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7. Wont bolt, but Dems are FOOLS if they dont fillbuster.
I have posted my opinions in plenty of other threads. Dont need to repeat them here. Will just say it is all WIN-WIN for fillibuster.

Dems need a chance for a show of strength. THis is it!
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:41 PM
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9. Why / how is it win-win?
Seriously, I'd like to know what you think. I see it more as lose - lose.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:04 PM
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19. No- "lose-lose" was what we did during the last 3 election cycles..
...remember that? I believe our "strategy" included being very cautious & "moderate" (conservative), not criticizing the war or Bush in '02, and not calling Bush a "liar" for every time he called us "flip-floppers."

Can you give me one single solitary example of how "working with" and giving Bush what he wants has benefited the Democratic party over the past 6 years?

Just one single, solitary example.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:37 PM
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8. no i'm not leaving the party. been a dem all my life but i am
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 12:40 PM by catmother
disgusted and depressed. feel like a beaten down dog after this alito mess.

it's an effort for me to even post today.
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:43 PM
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10. I "left" the dem party long ago
I still vote democrat the majority of the time but wouldn't leave the party over this even though it's a potentially huge deal
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:44 PM
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11. In any event, Dems should continue to boycott as much of the economy as
possible. Every dime you spend is helping this monster. This is one of the most important ways to tell them that we do not approve of their warmongering, spying, thieving and slacking.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:55 PM
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13. re boycotts - when a company loses money what is the first thing they do?
Lay offs. Your boycotts hurt the average joe. It's not the answer. I understand the frustration but it's not the answer. Wish I had one.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:30 PM
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21. excuse me?
it's the average joe that keeps voting this fraud back into office. (assuming, of course, that bush has ever actually won an election in his life, which i tend to doubt...)

the average joe has to hurt before he will question what he is doing.

too bad. so sad. cry me a crocodile tear, ok?

you looking for sympathy/empathy for those who should know better? look elsewhere.

:grr:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:50 PM
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22. your excused. I'm one of those average Joes and a life long dem.
thanks for the support.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:50 PM
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12. None of the above
It means NOT being affiliated with any political party. It means working for/donating money to and voting for the candidate I think will work for the best interest of me and my family, my community, my state and my country -- regardless of party affiliation. After 30 years of working my ass off for the Democratic Party, I finally had enough of the "shut up and vote Demo" mentality in 2004 and wrote in the person *I* thought should be president and it wasn't the DLC's pick. I was proud to work for/donate to/vote for Barbara Boxer last time around.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:30 PM
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14. Please tell me that's not true.
"Or {and I have seen this suggested} does it mean joining the Republican party and trying to change their policies - kind of a "behind enemy lines" strategy."
That's a joke, please tell me it is?

I've never heard anything more idiotic in my life. Why wouldn't they just use that time and effort to change the party they are already in, the one that's already closer to their values??
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nancyharris Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:35 PM
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16. I am not leaving the Democratic Party
The Democratic Party has left me....... long ago
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:45 PM
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17. right on Nancy











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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:25 PM
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20. Amen.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:58 PM
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18. Or, DEMs could filibuster and rally and unify the base like never before.
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 03:04 PM by Dr Fate
I know, I know- not giving Bush what he wants is "too radical."
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