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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:10 PM
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Why would anti-war protesters be at Dean events in Indiana tonight?
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 07:13 PM by madfloridian
I wonder if this article got it backwords and meant pro-war? This is confusing. Unless they are supporting him? Confusing.

http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2006/01/26/updates/region_and_state/caa2b48699a8492a8625710200602d97.txt

Dean hits region today

This story ran on nwitimes.com on Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:48 AM CST

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean will be in Hobart tonight drumming up financial support for the Indiana Democratic Party.

He will be at the Avalon Manor, 3550 E. U.S. 30 in Hobart. Admission to the 6 p.m. rally is a $50 contribution to the Indiana Democratic Party. Dean also will meet in a smaller reception for supporters at the $500 level or higher.

Dean's visit will not be without controversy. Local anti-war protesters have announced they plan to demonstrate outside the receptions" (that just makes no sense at all, not in light of Dean's statements. I mean Good Lord, he gets attacked from his own party and the GOP for saying we could not win in Iraq. Now he has anti-war protestors after him?

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:14 PM
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1. A demonstration / protest seems acceptable anyplace where
there are political decision makers.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:16 PM
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2. It is their right. I just meant why target him?
:shrug:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:19 PM
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6. Perhaps they feel they are lending him support and muscle.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:17 PM
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3. I went to a Dean event in Atlanta several months ago and there
were anti-war protestors there too! Seems they're not happy because Dean isn't strong ENOUGH against the war!

At least the ones here were pretty calm and just walked the sidewalk holding their signs.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:18 PM
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4. How strong against it do they want him to be? Surprising.
:hi:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:23 PM
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7. I don't know. I admit, I was surprised when I saw them there too!
I can't remember what the signs said, but I think they want him to be strongly pushing to pull all the troops out NOW! There were only about 35-30 of them and it wasn't a big deal.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:34 PM
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11. Some peace activists want the troops out now. Dean calls that
"irresponsible."

"I do believe it's irresponsible just to pull out the troops."

The UN, that will be seen as a tool of the US (witness Haiti, the UN are doing terrible crimes by the occupation of Haiti) would not be better.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/26/1346239

He also supported the assassination of political leaders in foreign countries (not domestically, yet)
(the question asked was about a Hamas leader, he responded by saying anyone who killed women and children out to be killed... but when asked about Sharon, who killed women and children, he evidently just refused to answer... not a very consistent stance, Mr Dean. Or maybe it is. Pro-occupation. Not going to offend the funders.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:37 PM
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12. Unfortunately all women and children are not created equal n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:51 PM
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13. Cute...(not domestically, yet)....cute dig.
That is presenting the views of someone in a very narrow way. He and many Democrats do not oppose targeting terrorist leaders. Most of them do not actually define Sharon as one. Whether they should or not is moot as to what you are presenting.

He is not pro-occupation....could you present why you think so?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 08:21 PM
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14. Because he is opposed to the troops being pulled out?
US troops present = occupation
troops being pulled out (as per the overwhelming majority of Iraqis desire) = end of occupation, but dean said that was "irresponsible".

I would say NOW Sharon is no longer acting as a terrorist. I have seen a remarkable change in his behaviour for the better this month, i must say.

Let's remember Sabra, Shatilia, Nablus, and many more.
"There is abundant evidence that war crimes and crimes against humanity were committed on a wide scale in the Sabra and Shatilla massacre, but to date, not a single individual has been brought to justice. President Bush should urge Prime Minister Sharon to cooperate with any investigation.

Hanny Megally, Executive Director of the Middle East and North Africa Division of Human Rights Watch"
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2001/06/23/isrlpa97.htm

Why are the children killed by Sharon not worthy of Dean's wrath? Are they children of a lesser God?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 09:17 PM
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15. Not true. Dean is not opposed to the troops being pulled out.
He says guards and reserves home now, get troops out as soon as possible, redeploying some to nearby countries...getting the rest out and getting the target off the backs of our troops.

Please do be honest.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:19 PM
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5. because dems are not doing enough to oppose the war....
That's my thought, and one that I concur with.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:24 PM
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8. I suspect it isn't directed so much at Dean personally.
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 07:25 PM by jonnyblitz
Like others said, I would assume it's meant to be directed at the DEM party , which is who he represents as the head of the DNC. :shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:26 PM
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9. Could be.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 07:28 PM
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10. Because they have a vision of the world as it should be.
They are a lot like the neo-Christians. They want to be martyrs for their cause. Reality is unacceptable.
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seg4527 Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:23 PM
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16. if he came to minneapolis, i would demonstrate
I supported Dean heavily in the primaries, but couldn't vote yet, because I turned 18 between the primaries and the election.

I think Dean has done a pretty good job with Iraq, but I would demonstrate because we need to keep a presence everywhere that politicians go, whether they agree with the war or disagree, that we are completely against it. Keep the pressure on them. After all, it's not like the Democrats do much about the war in iraq except disagree with it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 10:22 PM
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17. He was in RI today, and a very rude group of anti-war were disruptive.
They would not let up, I gather. It was an event in Dean's honor there. I saw a post elsewhere.

To me I think that is a little overboard. I gather at least the ones in Indiana were courteous.

We have so much serious stuff going on right now, I would love to know which group that was. Anyone?
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