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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:56 PM
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Video: Cindy Sheehan on Running for Senate
Edited on Sun Jan-29-06 10:58 PM by paineinthearse
Go Cindy, send Dino DiFi packing to her $16.5 mansion!!!!!



Cindy Sheehan on Running for Senate
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:50:06 -0800

Cindy Sheehan says Feinstein doesn't represent Californians; Department
of Justice attempted to pass unconstitutional legislation; Pentagon
foreign purse is expanded; US and Iraqi "insurgents" begin a dialogue;
Bush administration halts climate change lectures; and more ... Browse our continually updating front page at http://www.truthout.org

Video Exclusive: Cindy Sheehan on Running for Senate
Interview by Chris Hume and Sari Gelzer
http://www.truthout.org/multimedia.htm
Cinday Sheehan sat down with Chris Hume on Saturday and discussed why
she is considering a run for the Senate. Sheehan cited examples of Diane
Feinstein's votes that, in her opinion, did not represent Californians.

& in case you missed this earlier Truthout piece...

FOCUS | Cindy Sheehan Eyeing Senate Run
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012906Z.shtml
Stay tuned to t r u t h o u t for an exclusive one on one interview with Cindy Sheehan. The interview was conducted Saturday in Caracas,
Venezuela. Cindy discussed with Chris Hume her possible run for the United States Senate. This video special will be released later today.



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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:02 PM
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1. Imagine what it would mean if Cindy became the Senator from CA.
http://www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/jabber/jabberwocky.html

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.


`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:06 PM
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2. Cindy needs to chill out
I support her, but this is not productive. She needs to stick to anti-war activities and help defeat Republicans, not Democrats.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:09 PM
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3. So are you going to tell that
to the Iraq vets running for Congress/Senate? Are you going to tell Paul Hackett he needs to "chill out"?
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:48 PM
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4. Sheehan isn't a war vet, she isn't a politician
Edited on Sun Jan-29-06 11:49 PM by Tiggeroshii
and quite frankly, she isn't qualified. She was a great mouthpieace for the anti war protest and an excellent example of why we shouldn't stop protesting it, but she isn't a politician and if she ran it would do her far worse to her image than anything else. She's great and all, but Feinstein is realizing that most of her base are the people that elected her the first time and she's doing her best to represent us. Sheehan's great and all, but it wouldn't be good for us if she ran for Senate and jeopardized a safe seat like Feinstein's.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:03 AM
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9. Maybe it's healthy for "safe" Dem politicians to fear populist candidates
Especially ones who frequently disappoint progressives.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:32 AM
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11. How has Feinstein dissapointed them?
She's a potlician, and it takes a politician to stay in office.. Feinstein's voted with dems 98% of the time and has a progressive rating of just about that( see www.progressivepunch.org ). She voted for war, sure, she might regret it and say she was misled like every other senator who voted for war, but is that the only reason people don't like her? ...that and she's a poltiican? She has a near perfect voting record, guys!
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:29 AM
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15. She also said she would not fillibuster Alito
Until Cindy said she might run.An hour later Diane said she would fillibuster.
Coincidence???I think not
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:10 AM
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20. lol
Oh... spare me.
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:11 AM
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25. I respect your opinion KingFlorez
But as far as I am concerned: that so-called progressive Democrat stabbed me and my union in the back when she sided with the corporate interests when she called on Bush to invoke the Taft Hartley Act upon us. how's that for progressive?

As far as I am concerned Feinstein is nothing but a corporate whore pseudo Democrat. And the sooner she's replaced by someone who I consider as one of us the better.




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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 04:42 AM
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26. The harder you try, the quicker you'll lose any resemblece of a liberal in
her seat. It's not that I don't think she should be more progressive, it's that there are bigger fish to fry like a corrupt Bush administration and the more we try to oust one of our own, the more ammunittion the Repugs will have against us. If the Repugs manage to oust feinstein by getting just a plurality, that's another seat we've lost toward impeaching the screwball Bush and getting some decent hearings on election fraud and so on. We need to stay united at least till some justice is done.

Then we canstart to take care of the interparty problems we have. She might not votefor everything you'd like to be considered, but she'd vote to impeach the shrub a million times over so long as Reid called for it. We need her vote, just like we need Ben Nelson's, Bill Nelson's etc. The stakes are too high for us to be doing this right now....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:25 AM
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29. The war vets aren't politicians either
She can do whatever she wants. How do you know how she'll do? You don't know that do you? Do you have a crystal ball?
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:55 AM
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37. It's too big of a risk.
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 01:00 AM by Tiggeroshii
Hackett's an experienced trial lawyer and has served a decade on his city council. He has legal experience and political experience. Every other Iraq vet is running for a house seat or state legisture seat. They wouldn't be threatening any Dem incumbent Senator like Sheehan would.

But of course you probably don't mind us not getting the majority this year cause of some lousy stunt by an inexperienced politician, do you? We'll lose a solidly liberal state if she does well, not go for the Dem nomination and end up splitting the lib vote - letting some bushite representus in the US Senate. Is that what you want? Running Sheehan would likely be throwing away all hopes for us winning the congress and getting investigations into the criminal repugs. Even if it doesn't happen as I said, history says that's very likely.Are you willing to take the risk? Honestly?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:56 PM
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5. That's not the same thing
Cindy isn't a veteran, she's an activist. I don't think she should be trying to run for the senate against a Democrat, because that does nothing for the cause she's fighting for and could cause us to lose a valuable senate seat.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:05 AM
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10. The only thing Feinstein is a veteran of is the SF city council
She became mayor when Dan "twinkie defense" White assassinated Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk. At best she is a third rate Supervisor, and never would have risen above that had it not been for that fateful day.

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=1529070&nav=5D81

May 21, 1979... It is known as the 'White Nite Riot', when grief and anger turned into a furious battle on the streets of San Francisco after assassin Dan White received a sentence of voluntary manslaughter for the double murders of Mayor George Moscone and Harvey Milk, the city's first openly gay supervisor.

Dan White came from San Francisco's Visitacion Valley, one of 9 children from a working class Irish Catholic family.

He had been an army paratrooper during the war in Vietnam, then served his city as a cop, fireman, and supervisor.

In November of 1978, White assassinated Moscone and Milk at City Hall.

The madness was both tragic and incomprehensible.

Just nine days before, the city's heart and soul had been ripped apart by the shocking murder-suicides of some 900 members from San Francisco's people's temple in Jonestown, Guyana.

When the blood lust continued with the killings at City Hall, it was a brutal climax to one of the darkest chapters in the history of San Francisco.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:31 AM
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17. paine, nice to see you. Too bad you make too much
sense!
I'm not from SF, obviously, but Cindy being a rep of the people sounds pretty profound to me!
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:48 AM
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43. Nowhere did I say Feinstein was a veteran
Someone compared Cindy Sheehan to the Iraq War veterans running for office and I said Cindy is not a veteran.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:37 AM
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12. It'd be a dang disaster.
The only thing she would accomplish is making california more republican than it's already gotten.I get the whole anti etablishment stuff, but I guarantee you that if Sheehan got into office and got the right training to win, they would immediately be dissapointed. She's not a politician -unfortunately we need them, and if she seeks political office, she'll need to be a "pro establishment," kinda gal... that's how poltics molds you, and it's not gonna be different for anybody who seeks those goals.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:27 AM
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30. So should John Kerry have not run?
He was an activist too when he was younger.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:45 AM
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41. You just don't get it?
Cindy Sheehan isn't qualified for any sort of office, she's just an activist. John Kerry worked his way up politcally, Cindy Sheehan is trying to run to get revenge on someone she's angry at.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:48 AM
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34. Agreed
She has her own cause and I wish her well. I don't wish
to see her in public office.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:59 PM
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6. Bull
DINOs like Feinstein and Lieberman are corporate whores who are rethugs dressed in Dem clothing.

Just because they are incumbents does not mean they should hold their seats for life.

That is why there are terms.

When a term is up, they must gain the consent of the electorate to be returned. If they do not represent the electorate, they have no guaranteed right to be returned.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:30 AM
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16. Truer words were never spoken
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:46 AM
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42. Whatever
I don't care about all the DINO nonsense, people records speak for themselves and Feinstein's record is good.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:59 PM
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7. Thank goodness Cindy isn't a career politician and pays attention
to your idea of productivity. Go Cindy!!! I think it's a great sign of democracy that she would take DI on. Most incumbants suck anyway, they live to bloviate...Cindy is a real citizen.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:01 AM
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8. No she must not chill out!
I would LOVE to see a REAL Democrat go up against a Vichy Democrat like Feinstein. Aren't you sick of these politician who are suppose to be Democrats caving in or voting along with the Neocons? I am. I say "Run, Cindy Run!"


John
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:26 AM
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14. As Diane is always siding with the republicans
Can you really consider her a good democrat???
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:16 AM
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21. I don't think I've seen any example of how Feinstein's sided witht
repugs? Could you give me one? She's certainly not *always* voted with them...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:28 AM
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31. She betrayed all of us women with Alito
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:39 AM
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32. Feinstein betrayed all of us women with Alito?
she voted for the filibuster and she is expected to vote no on his confirmation. I'm not wild about Feinstein but let's not accuse her of something she is not guilty of.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:43 AM
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33. If you are right then...
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 12:47 AM by Tiggeroshii
I still have yet to hear somebody tell me how she has "always" sided with Republicans. She's certainly a poltiician, and that's a minus in my book, but running Sheehan means risking her seat, and risking a safe Democrat seat is not worth what's at stake in the next election. She's voted with them at least 9/10 times and will probably vote for impeachement and support investigations of the president. Isn't that what really matters? Shouldn't that be what we're focused on? I think we should save the anti compromising Democrats rhetoric for a time when the stakes aren't this high and for a time when we can afford losing 1 Democrat seat and stay in the majority. That is far more important than whether or not the Dem is progressive enough, don't you think?
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 01:12 AM
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38. I think you answered the wrong post
I was saying that Feinstein DIDN'T betray women because she supported the filibusster and is expected to vote no on Alito - I was questioning the poster that said she betrayed us women on Alito and Feinstein most certainly did not.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 01:26 AM
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39. Sorry
I didn't answer the wrong post, but I assumed you were another Dianne Feinstein hater and wanted to try to make another point. Didn't work out so well, my apologies. I'm just getting beyond myself cause this anti feisntein rhetoric is making me worry California might not stay so blue for as long as we hope.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:48 AM
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40. Well I don't live in CA
but I listen to Bernie Ward and Ray Talefero on KGO so I hear alot of news from there - my feeling after the trouncing Arnold got in November is the only way CA will not stay blue is if they tamper with your voting machines. I don't hate Feinstein I'm just not a huge fan, but on the bright side your other Senator is absolutely one of the BEST in the country.....
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:52 AM
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36. No she didn't
get your facts straight before you go spouting off lies.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:13 AM
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13. Yes Cindy should run!!!!
If any of you have listened to Cindy's speeches you know that she talks from her heart.She doesnt care about the money and the status she cares about the people!!!!She is sincere and honest and cant be bought.She has very high principles and says it like it is.
We need honest caring people in our government not people who are there for the benefits and really dont care about the people who arent rich or connected to big corporations.It has mostly become about the pork and that is not what this country was founded for.
Cindy might not have fought in the war or been politically connected but she has learned all about politics in the last 2 yrs.She has been all over the world talking to prime ministers and people who are in the government,she was part of the downing street hearings and she stood up to bush.How many politicians have done that????
Diane just flip flops which ever way she things will get her the most support.We have too many politicians like that now.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:42 AM
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18. She'd lose the primary but maybe win the war...
If Cindy did run, Diane would be forced to campaign against her as Cindy would be a serious threat simply due to the publicity. Many anti-war people will come out in support of Cindy just on the Iraq issue alone, effectively forming a caucus that Diane would have to listen to for their support in the election. Cindy's running may jerk Diane back to the left where we want her. And hell, if Cindy won by some miracle, how bad could she be? Honestly, at least she'd tell the truth and listen when she didn't know. Who says a Senator can't be just one honest passionate American?
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:08 AM
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19. ON cindy's behalf I thank you!!!!!
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:54 AM
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24. Cindy's doing good things...
People who do good things should always be respected and helped in the hope that they can do great things. I don't agree with eveything she says sometimes but she's not a liar. I also know that if I needed to, I could go to her and she would at least listen. She's satisfied my 2 biggest campaign issues though I don't know if they trump experience. However, what she lacks in experience she may just make up for in boldness. I think if she did make it to Washington, she'd scare the living shit out of a lot of them.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:17 AM
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28. az chela
In case people didn't know, az chela is Cindy's eyes on DU.

:)
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:17 AM
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22. great video and yes I definitely think she should run
It would be an uphill fight to put it mildly. If Feinstein wins the primary which would frankly be likely, one can still vote for her in the general election.

Progressives frequently complain about prominent Democrats being timid. It is about time that progressives get over their timidity also.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:19 AM
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23. Hell Yes!
Cindy is a REAL Democrat.
Through and through. We need many
many Cindy Sheehans and ZERO liebermans
in Congress.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:09 PM
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27. K&N. Cindy is a real Democrat. We need many more
real people like CIndy to take the reigns away from the double-crossing corporate-owned Congresscritters we have now.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:52 AM
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35. The question needs to be asked
Where does she get her funds from for her globe trotting?

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