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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:27 AM
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There is no privacy any longer.
I didn't realize that there was in the works an FCC mandate that will require that all hardware and software have a wiretap backdoor that allows the government to tap into all communications.

This from Networking Pipeline:

"The mandate expands the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), and requires that every piece of hardware and software sold include the backdoor."

"The rule isn't yet final, but once it is, all vendors will have 18 months to comply. And in fact, says Brad Templeton, chairman of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), some router makers already include such a backdoor. So your hardware may be vulnerable."

See more at http://www.networkingpipeline.com/blog/archives/2006/01/feds_want_a_wir.html



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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:29 AM
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1. Plan A: Flood them with disinformation
until it's pouring out of their sneaky little ears.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:47 AM
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2. yawn. I always order all my anthrax on line.
plus the explosives, don't forget about those.

Why, I just pick up the phone, call my arms dealer and say, Adnan, I'd like a fissile material centrifuge, three surface to air missiles, a green laser pointer, a dirty bomb and some plastic explosive shoelaces. Do I get a pack of matches for free with that?

Also, I need a 747 to HIJACK AND FLY INTO A SKY SCRAPER. Could you just FedEx those to my house please, yeah second day air is fine.

Yes we should be worried. Clearly this doesn't have a damn thing to do with terrorism, since REAL terrorists most assuredly don't have grocery lists.

Oh and let's see, also if I were a terrorist, I wouldn't be using my computer at home. I'd walk down the street to the nearest cash internet cafe and log on anonymously. Also, there are a dozen different languages I'd use other than English if I were speaking on the courtesy phone at say, the local car dealership.

These people are deeply, profoundly stupid if they really do happen to believe that they'll catch a terrorist this way.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:57 AM
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3. Forget about Anthrax, VX nerve gas is where it's at
Say, do you know where to get tubes for a gas separator? I can't get A.Q. Khan on the phone.

Boy , I'm glad I took that course in Creative Anarchy back in Berkeley.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:05 AM
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6. oh man, gas separator tubes just go to
edmund scientific, I believe. Or you can make them yourself from stuff you can get at Home Depot.

Hey just put some VX nerve gas in a pump bottle of hairspray or deoderant.

I think they already do, you can buy it right at the supermarket under the brand name Axe Body Spray (hack hack).

Sorry my right hand and eyeball just went numb and my stomach skipped a few beats, but it's all good.

:P
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:58 AM
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4. Oh goody, a direct line to the president.
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 10:58 AM by Pacifist Patriot
Bush, You're a Fuckhead!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:59 AM
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5. Here's the real issue: they had all the data they needed
to stop 9/11. They were unable to put those pieces together.

They need more data like they need a hole in the head.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:19 AM
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7. They just want to bug/spy on their "enemies"
that means anyone who disagrees with them -- and in the process they'll bug all of their friends as well.

Probably all news reporters/journalists -- all scientists etc are targets of the spy masters.

This has nothing to do with "terrorists" because sane people know that the real terrorist lives in the white house.

Nixon spied on everyone he could with old technology. He didn't trust the people -- we were the enemy. And to the the bush gang -- anyone not in his tiny social circle is the enemy.

At least with Nixon there was a balance of power -- now we are going to see how far bushie playing Nixon can go without any limits put on his power. I suspect that even bushie's political friends are being blackmailed into compliance with the bushie world view.
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:42 AM
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8. In case anyone thinks this might be unconstitutional
I think we can count on Justice Alito and his buddies to set us straight.
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:36 PM
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9. Agree completely with your comments. It all started ASAP way
before 911. That's how they've kept such tight control over Congress. Everyone can now be compromised or blackmailed because they can have every piece of info about us, even interpret our THOUGHTS into their sick analyses. And all done with taxpayer money, in our name, in the name of national security.
bah humbug

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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:42 PM
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10. how are they going to enforce this w/open source?
where anyone can modify the source code on their own? Won't work. And just wait until the script kiddies get their hand on this! And then there is always the soldering iron...

Bogus- just more spying on the citizens.

There is a reason I have a Tux for my avitar...
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