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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:02 PM
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White House Working to Avoid Wiretap Probe
February 20, 2006

At two key moments in recent days, White House officials contacted congressional leaders just ahead of intelligence committee meetings that could have stirred demands for a deeper review of the administration's warrantless-surveillance program, according to House and Senate sources.

In both cases, the administration was spared the outcome it most feared, and it won praise in some circles for showing more openness to congressional oversight.

But the actions have angered some lawmakers who think the administration's purported concessions mean little. Some Republicans said that the White House came closer to suffering a big setback than is widely known, and that President Bush must be more forthcoming about the eavesdropping program to retain Congress's good will.

The first White House scramble came on Feb. 8, before the House intelligence committee began a closed briefing on the program, which Bush began in late 2001 but which was disclosed only recently. The program allows the National Security Agency to monitor communications involving a person in the United States and one outside, provided one is a possible terrorism suspect. The administration says the program is exempt from the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which provides for domestic surveillance warrants. Many lawmakers and legal scholars disagree.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/19/AR2006021901031.html


Gee, I thought Pat Roberts took care of everything for the WH?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:11 PM
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1. They're running scared so you know they're guilty! nt
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:09 PM
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11. Like the old saying goes
Remember how, when you were a kid, and you were scared of the dark or something, you might have had your mom or dad tell you "If you weren't so bad, you wouldn't be so scared."

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:22 PM
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12. That's a terrible old saying
I would never demonize my kid for his own fears.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:16 PM
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2. Bush has admitted he ordered the tapping and is very
vulnerable to being charged a crime... you bet he is scrambling...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:17 PM
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3. there should be no 'good will' from Congress on this issue.


But the actions have angered some lawmakers who think the administration's purported concessions mean little. Some Republicans said that the White House came closer to suffering a big setback than is widely known, and that President Bush must be more forthcoming about the eavesdropping program to retain Congress's good will....
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:20 PM
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4. Some of the wiretaps were from prior to 9/11 too ...
.... ergo the reason for the wiretaps, terrorism is rendered phony. I might be a DU delusional
nut case but I have no doubt that Kerry and others were snooped on. The Kerry campaign in OH
had too many things happen and @ a level of sophistication that was down right scary.

Pat Roberts and others are trying to help bush and company get away w/ another crime.

Monica/BJ/White Water = 7 years and 70 million $s
9/11 looked @ by the Congress = less the 18 months and 5 million $s. (I think those figures are right)

Which was more important?

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:28 PM
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5. From one delusional nut case to another
I'm not sure that they eaves dropped on Kerry and Edwards, but at the same time there is something there that they are DESPERATELY trying to keep under wraps. I think they're hiding something far more sinister.

Oh yeah, one more thing...I don't have any faith that they are trying to cover up for National security reasons.....not unless they have used some legitimate super-secret operation ILLEGALLY and subverted its purpose.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:36 PM
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6. If bush has the "inherent right" to violate any laws he wishes, why block
a probe?

If it's "legal" for bush to illegally spy on American citizens, why block a probe?

HMMM?
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:46 PM
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7. about time White house officials were rounded up and put behind bars
Members of Congress should do something out of the ordinary to nail Bush and Cheney. Cheney and Rumsfeld were the operators of citizen-spying
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:58 PM
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8. I would say they are guilty
Any body who created the conditions at GITMO and Abu Ghraib have very little respect for the law, look at the stories of planes flying around with people being tortured in crates,
Is it so hard to believe that they would condone all manner of eavesdropping when they
are waterboarding people, many of whom are innocent.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:00 PM
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9. In a court of law, this action would be jury tampering.
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 10:07 PM by rumpel


on edit:
Keeping pressure on congress is the only way. Especially if they are repubs and you are his/her constituent I would pester until I get my point accross.
Then they will start grumbling in public even with the power house holding a fire under their butts.

Mine are all Dems..
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:07 PM
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10. They're just buying more time so they can think of
MORE LIES to tell. The WH thinks its program is exempt from the 1978 FISA??:rofl:.....oh those OLD OUTDATED LAWS JUST GET IN THE WAY, don't they?! :eyes: I think I read that the WH has until March to explain their ILLEGAL program.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:09 AM
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13. Roberts and Host are on the case
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:37 AM
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14. Sen. Roberts is a bastard and a traitor to the Constitution!
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