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freetempe Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:00 PM
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UK Telegraph-The Secret Society That Ties Bush and Kerry
...And the four candidates who are from Yale. I'm not going to editorialize, just post this link from Rense.com and paste a snipet or two.

By Charles Laurence
The Telegraph - UK
2-1-4

http://www.rense.com/general48/desct.htm

"Sen Kerry is remembered as "running for president since freshman year". One of his contemporaries said: "He was obsessed by politics to the exclusion of all else. At that age, it's a bit creepy." He dated Janet Auchincloss, the half-sister of Jackie Kennedy, the First Lady, won the presidency of the Yale Political Union, and was initiated into the Skull and Bones before joining the United States Navy for service in Vietnam. "

"Not surprisingly, the club's rituals fascinate many Americans. Robbins's book describes a social club with arcane rules, a hoard of relics ranging from Hitler's silver collection to the skull of the Indian chief Geronimo - plus a resident prostitute.

She says initiation rites include a mud-wrestling bout, receiving a beating and the recitation by a new member of his sexual history - delivered while he lies naked in a coffin. Elevation of a Bonesman creates opportunities for his fellows, and Robbins says that President Bush has appointed 10 members to his administration, including the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

She recently surveyed 100 of the estimated 800 living Bonesmen on their preferred election winner - Sen Kerry or President Bush. Perhaps not surprisingly, given that both are pledged to advance the interests of fellow Bonesmen, "They answered that they didn't care. Whichever way it went, it was a win-win for them."
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:06 PM
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1. Thanks for posting this
It bears repeating over and over.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:08 PM
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2. Robbins said right here at DU that kerry never used his S&B connex to get
ahead or achieve his goals, while Bush used them every step of the way.

Don't underestimate the effect of Vietnam and how THAT was a greater life experience for those who lived it than a college fraternity.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:32 PM
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8. The Order of Skull and Bones is NOT a "college fraternity"
It is an insidious cult that involves some of the shadiest characters in the history of this nation, including financiers that helped bankroll the Third Reich.

This wouldn't be an issue had Kerry been a member of Sigma Chi and spent his days playing drinking games such as Bizz-Buzz or Cardinal Puff.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:01 PM
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10. The clique in S&B that Bush belonged to
is obviously much different than the one Kerry belonged to. Three of Kerry's S&B friends all served in Vietnam and his best friend was killed there.

Bush's clique had their lives cushioned every step of the way.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:04 PM
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12. Dont forget zoomie zoomie
and beruit
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:58 PM
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9. Robbins posted here? Interesting.... Gotta link?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:03 PM
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11. It was shortly after her book came out.
There was a poster here who saved it and reposted it several times. Not me, though.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:47 PM
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22. 4th or 5th link. The one that says "just joined DU"
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:44 PM
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24. THANK YOU!!! I missed this when it was discussed...
I look forward to pouring through the posts.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 11:05 PM
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25. Anytime :) Enjoy! n/t
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:10 PM
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3. Rense is such a great site.
The UFO artwork is beyond comparison. Check it out when you go there to read the article.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:12 PM
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4. This part says it all
Ecerpt:

In fact Yale, with annual tuition fees of $28,400 (£16,000), has long sent graduates to the top of all professions from the campus in New Haven, Connecticut, where it was founded in 1731.

The Skull and Bones is the most exclusive organisation on campus. Members have ranged from President William Taft to Henry Luce, the founder of the Time-Life magazine empire, and from Averill Harriman, the businessman and diplomat, to the first President George Bush.

Alexandra Robbins, a Yale graduate and author of a book on the Skull and Bones, Secrets of the Tomb, said: "It is staggering that so many of the candidates are from Yale, and even more so that we are looking at a presidential face-off between two members of the Skull and Bones. It is a tiny club with only 800 living members and 15 new members a year.

"But there has always been a sentiment at Yale to push students into public service, an ethos of the elite making their way through the corridors of power - and the sole purpose of the Bones is power."
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:21 PM
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7. Curious
Any of those 800 living members in the media business? Had to ask, while we were toying with the subject.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 06:53 PM
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20. Henry Luce,founded Time-Life,dead since '67,though.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:13 PM
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5. oh come on Dr Dean, enough with this S&C crap
you are better off calling him a republican
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:18 PM
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6. A "resident prostitute"?
You mean Bush and Kerry may have something in common? I wonder what Pickles thinks....
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:09 PM
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13. This article from the Telegraph is sensationalist, biased, and sleazy.
They don't call it the Tory-graph for nothing.

Creepy? Arcane rituals and hoards of relics from Hitler and Geronimo? Prostitutes and coffins? This article just keeps getting better and better!
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BruinAlum Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:12 PM
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14. This Skull and Bones fratboy stuff is nonsense
Pure crap.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:40 PM
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15. Prove it.
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BruinAlum Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:45 PM
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16. The burdon of proof is on those who insist it is something to worry about
with Kerry. And I've never seen one iota of proof, and only BS and paranoid innuendo. It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 05:39 PM
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19. eric burdon?
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:48 PM
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17. Yawn.
:boring:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:49 PM
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18. Beware the source-- London Telegraph is like Wash Times
The Telegraph is the notoriiously right-wing/wacko daily in London, read by those who think the Times is too "liberal".

The Daily Telegraph is one step above the tabloids like the Sun-- and not much better, IMHO.

At least the Times, while conservative, at least gets its facts right. The Independent and the Guardian are much better as far as ideology, IMHO.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:01 PM
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21. Wow I never knew that, That is important.
That overshadows even George Bush support by groups such as the American Enterprise Institute.
Thanks for the info.

Kerry will NEVER get my vote.

He belonged to a fraternity!

FOR SHAME!!!!

(sarcasm on)
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:53 PM
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23. A media attack on Kerry
What in the world?! He's the puppet of the establishment, man!
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