US Christian Leaders Apologize For Iraq War

Now for the impeachment trial.

shouldn't the Iraqis apologize for shrubs effing up their country?

Fighting for peace is like F*&king for virginity

"Our leaders turned a deaf ear to the voices of church leaders throughout our nation and the world, entering into imperial projects that seek to dominate and control for the sake of our own national interests. Nations have been demonized and God has been enlisted in national agendas that are nothing short of idolatrous."

the invasion. Other religious leaders as well. They knew it was both illegal AND immoral.

Bush didn't give a flying fuck that HIS OWN church was against it.

The only Christians with a boner for war were the deep-fried, nutjobber, armageddonist mother fuckers.

Please make a note of it. :-)

It's just "unusual" in that it's being reported. The only "Christian leaders" who get extensive face time on the nation's televisions are vile hucksters such as Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Fred Phelps. John Shelby Spong, Marcus Borg, Cliff Kindy, and Virginia Ramey Mollenkott need not apply.

-so many true christians must feel deeply ashamed indeed - and they too want to help speak truth to power ... it's happening every day in the circles most evident to me (dems and repubs alike)

This subject has been on my mind a lot:

1. A recent article by Richard Dawkins on 'Is Religion the Root of All Evil': <http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/13736462.htm>

2. A recent book by philosopher Daniel Dennett on Why People Believe in Religion. <http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/politicsphilosophyandsociety/0,,1717035,00.html>

3. An upcoming conference on how to challenge misuse of religion by the Religious Right -- and also how to challenge "the many anti-religious and anti-spiritual assumptions and behaviors that have increasingly become part of the liberal culture. <http://www.spiritualprogressives.org>

I'm glad that in Item #3, they're holding a Spiritual Progressives conference on how to counter the Religious Right, and my liberal religion is considering sending someone. But talk to me about "challenging anti-religious behaviors" among fellow progressives after the Religious Right has been publicly repudiated by mainstream religions, not before.

<http://www.defconamerica.org/>
DefCon is an online grassroots movement combating the growing power of the religious right. We will fight for the separation of church and state, individual freedom, scientific progress, pluralism, and tolerance while respecting people of faith and their right to express their beliefs

Edited to add: there are a lot a liberal churches that help form this organization.

with recent articles on torture policy and Iraq. A very enlightening issue

in support of halting global warming.

I said to them or actually the tv: "Thank-you. Thank-you. Thank-you."