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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:58 PM
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Poll question: What would South Dakota congress members do if their daughter was raped
Let's be hypothetical. The daughter is raped by a black man after she was hanging out at the local Denny's.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:59 PM
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1. Hire a defense lawyer? nt
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:59 PM
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2. They'd cross the boarder.
See, their abortions are ok. It's YOURS that are morally wrong.

:eyes:
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:00 PM
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3. Wait...
a black man...at a Denny's...? ROFL!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:01 PM
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4. It was a trick question...
No black man would ever hang out at a Denny's in South Dakota...except if they work there for crappy wages.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:04 PM
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13. Yeah, I kinda got that
:)
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:01 PM
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5. lol
I was just thinking about the same question except it applied to a specific female republican. Still not sure if she is really a female so it probably doesn't apply to her/him.
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:01 PM
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6. secret trip to Mexico n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:03 PM
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11. Or for the more cultured, a trip to Europe....
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 06:03 PM by Dr Fate
Or, if time is of the essense, see post #7.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:02 PM
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7. They do what rich people in Augusta GA do, call a private family doctor.
Who would then perform the service during off hours at his office, or in some cases, even at a residence.

Happens all the time in the suburbs- I know for hard, stone-cold fact that it occurs in Augusta GA, so that rich girls dont have to be seen with the "white trash" girls at Planned Parenthood.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:02 PM
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8. Other
Have their own private physician come to their mansion to perform the abortion in private.
:patriot:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:05 PM
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14. DING DING DING! This is the dirty secret of Republican suburbia.
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 06:11 PM by Dr Fate
And you dont have to have to live in a mansion. I know for a fact that it happens in upper middle class circles.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:53 PM
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36. Tha's how George and Robin eliminated their "inconvenience."
Was George W. Bush "Involved" in an Illegal Abortion?
24-Oct-00
Bush Abortion
On CNN's Crossfire on October 20, Larry Flynt exploded a bombshell: that he has evidence that George W. Bush was "involved in an abortion in Texas" in the early 1970's - when abortions were still illegal. Amazingly, CNN has censored its own story by removing the entire transcript! We posted the relevant parts, but this has all the markings of a cover-up by CNN - just like the cover-ups of Bush's many other scandals, from going AWOL, to using illegal drugs, to corruption in Texas government, to lying under oath. It looks like the Bush campaign has people quietly removing evidence of Bush's many scandals. When will the media wake up???

http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Bush%20Abortion

Except they went to a hospital. I guess you can do that when your last name is spelled "B - U - S - H"
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:21 PM
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27. no no no no, my friend
Those aren't 'abortions'!!!!!!!!!!!! Those are "D&C's"

How and when is a D&C performed?

The actual procedure is done in an operating room, either in a hospital, surgicenter, or specially designated room in a physician's office. After adequate anesthesia has been administered, and with the patient in position (similar to that for a pap smear), the vagina and cervix are cleansed with an antibacterial scrub (usually betadine). An instrument is used to grasp the upper portion of the cervix and then the opening to the uterus is gradually widened with metal dilators to about the size of a large pencil. Once this dilatation has been completed, the curette, which is an instrument with a flat metal loop at the end, is inserted into the uterine cavity and is used to gently scrape the lining of the uterus. When the surgeon feels the gritty layer of cells just above the muscle of the uterus, then he/she knows that the scraping has gone deep enough to sample the tissue adequately. This scraping is done throughout the uterus and the tissue that is removed is then sent to a pathologist for microscopic examination. Once the surgeon feels that enough tissue has been obtained, or that all of the cavity has been sampled, or that any abnormal growths that were seen on ultrasound were removed, then the procedure is stopped. Often, the doctor uses a viewing instrument to examine the uterus visually (hysteroscopy) prior to the D&C to make the procedure more complete. This is not, however, always necessary.


See???????they won't even have to call it an 'abortion'....all nice and neat and clean!!

http://www.medicinenet.com/dilatation_and_curettage/page2.htm#tocf
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:49 AM
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30. Yes, my own very anti-abortion mother
had a D&C after she got pregnant just before splitting up with my dad. For the rest of her life, she swore that it wasn't an abortion, because her OB-GYN called it a "D&C". Never mind that the result was the same, the termination of an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy.

This happened in Georgia, shortly before abortions became legal. Look for a lot more women suddenly needing D&Cs for mysterious "female problems" (as they used to say in the deep south) if the law changes again.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:02 PM
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9. Cross the boarder.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:03 PM
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10. Honor Killing
.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:04 PM
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12. Can she prove it was rape? That she's a virgin? That she didn't
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 06:23 PM by BlueIris
provoke the rape somehow? That she in no way enjoyed being raped (the only way a pregnancy can result from a sex act after all)? 'Kay, then maybe she can end the pregnancy--after being interrogated for thirty-seven days non-stop about how terrible she is, and promising never to go outside (or wear shoes outside her husband's kitchen) again.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:39 PM
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18. You forgot....
...is she a Christian? Was she holding out as a virgin until she got married? Oh, and was she brutally raped...not just raped...
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:52 PM
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20. Oh, right, silly me. I, of course, am not an enlightened Christian.
I forgot about the "brutality" qualifier.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:59 PM
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23. Oh yeah...and sodomized too... That knuckledragger Napoli said...
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 07:01 PM by zulchzulu

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/06.html#a7412

"A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life."
- Bill Napoli

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=bill+napoli+south+dakota&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Looks like you can give him a call...
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:04 PM
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24. Oh, right. We discussed that on my blog...
I wonder what the admin would do if I put his phone number up for our readers...hmmm.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:42 PM
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35. Would be a good idea to send him a printout of threads like this one...
...not that it would change his closed, pornographic, mind.

I didn't know that about the Quayles. Sounds like Dan Q had a soft spot for his hypothetical 13-year-old daughter, but Marilyn Q has the rigidity of fanaticism. Either that, or she is lying in her teeth and the child would have had a hush-hush procedure. Either way, very creepy for a mother to think like that.

Hekate
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:36 PM
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26. Yeah, because rape doesn't count
Unless the girl/woman in question was a religious virgin who was brutalized and sodomized "as bad as you could possibly make it".

Bleeping sadist. :grr:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:11 PM
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15. Folks, what makes you all think they would be seen at a PP clinic?
See my above posts- Republican parents dont send their teens to "those clinics"- they would be seen with "trashy girls" if they did that.

Republican parents call a doctor friend they can trust. They generally dont need to go all the way across the border or any of that.

See my posts above- this HAPPENS- I KNOW it happens in Augusta GA, I'm assuming it goes on in most gated community type settings.

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:12 PM
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16. Didn't Dan Quayle admit on national TV that if his daughter was
12 and got pregnant he'd get her an abortion?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:41 PM
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19. He said...
I hope I never have to deal with it. But obviously I would counsel her and talk to her and support her on whatever decision she made.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle responding to Larry King's question of how he would react if his 13-year-old daughter chose to have an abortion. (CNN, July 22, 1992) Marilyn Quayle later remarked that her daughter would ``take the child to term.''

http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/chris.holt/home.informal/bar/corsair.afdq/quayle.quotes/womens.issues.html
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:55 PM
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21. WOAH. I forgot about that Quayle-ism. No wonder they hated him.
Talk about going "off message."
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:22 PM
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17. if memory serves, there is but one clinic, in Fargo, that provides..
...abortion services and is regularly harrassed in vicious ways.
...so -- perhaps it's a fine point, but I think it's going to be Minnesota or Nebraska.
...Don't know that much about services in Wyoming or Montana but I'm guessing they're not too extensive.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:56 PM
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22. Could be Iowa
there's a clinic in Sioux City that does them...at least there was when I lived in that area.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:06 PM
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25. Join in and invite their minister.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:42 AM
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28. Kick.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:47 AM
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29. Back to the Good Old Days: get a good doc to give her a D&C, or...
...or drive her across the border to a legal clinic. You can consider the second option "outsourcing."

Part of the scam in the Good Old Days was that "girls of good family" -- i.e. daddy had money and social status -- could wangle a hospital visit for a D&C. Hospitals had ethics panels that would review women's appeals for an abortion -- usually they said no, but status helped.

Or, daddy might be in the same country club as a good ob/gyn, who might take care of the problem quietly.

Ah, the good old days of rampant hypocrisy.

Hekate
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:27 AM
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32. Well thoses days are comming back
and dumpster babies too.

I can't wait.

:sarcasm:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:03 AM
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31. Start Buying Diapers!
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:17 AM
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33. ...by a black man or latino?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:06 AM
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34. God forbid a white uncle...
I just wanted to get into the scariest scenario a SD Repug asswipe might have to deal with...
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