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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 02:22 PM
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Rumsfeld's Free Pass on Iraq; Senators didn't ask, weren't told
Rumsfeld's Free Pass on Iraq
Senators didn't ask, weren't told.

By Fred Kaplan
Posted Thursday, March 9, 2006, at 5:49 PM ET


It's a tossup which is more galling: that Donald Rumsfeld digs himself a few feet deeper with each remark he makes before a congressional committee, or that his interrogators don't seem to notice.
Take this morning's hearing before the Senate appropriations committee, at which Rumsfeld appeared alongside not only the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq but also Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. The two Cabinet secretaries appeared jointly—an unusual event—to make the case for President Bush's $65 billion request for emergency funding to sustain the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You'd think this would be a prime opportunity for Capitol Hill's top overseers to grill the Bush administration's top decision-makers on where they think the wars are going, the prospects for troop withdrawal or deeper immersion, the interplay of risks, opportunities, and budgets.

Think again.

Sen. Robert Byrd, the ranking Democrat, posed some pertinent questions, or started to anyway. What are our plans, he asked, if all-out civil war erupts in Iraq? Will our troops hunker down, will they withdraw? If not, which side will they fight on? Do we have plans for such a contingency?
Rumsfeld replied, "The plan is to prevent a civil war and, to the extent one were to occur, to have the Iraqi security forces deal with it, to the extent they are able to."

That's not a plan, and Rumsfeld must know it. He even, wittingly or not, left an opening in his reply—Iraqi security forces will deal with it, "to the extent they are able to"—that any high-school debater would have plowed through with gusto. "To what extent are they able to?" would have been one decent follow-up (especially since U.S. officials in the field have noted that many of these security forces have stronger allegiances to ethnic factions than to a central government).

But nobody followed up.

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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 02:46 PM
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1. Best question
Whose side WOULD we take in a civil war????? Hummmmm????? Or perhaps like the last great Iran/Iraq war we sold arms to both sides and made money off each. Clever we Americans. Sell both sides munitions and clean up with the war profiteering. Ethics, morals, scruples, compassionate conservatism...money grubbing asshats.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 02:59 PM
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2. we are already in the middle of it n/t
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:56 PM
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4. That is my belief as well
just because the haven't given it the moniker "civil war" quite yet doesn't mean that is not what it is. When our esteemed leaders mislead us with every word; I have taken to making my own assessments and calling it like I see it.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:24 PM
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5. we've been lied to so much...
we have to come up with our own answers.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 03:38 PM
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3. The city with the highest population of crooks, liars, incompetents, and
criminals on this planet? Gotta be Washington D.C.

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