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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:58 AM
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What the pundits said about Iraq back in 2003
Here is a sampling of quotes gathered at this site:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2842

"Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics' complaints."
(Fox News Channel's Tony Snow, 4/27/03)

"The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside liberals, and a few people here in Washington."
(Charles Krauthammer, Inside Washington, WUSA-TV, 4/19/03)

"We had controversial wars that divided the country. This war united the country and brought the military back."
(Newsweek's Howard Fineman--MSNBC, 5/7/03)

"We're all neo-cons now."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)

"The war was the hard part. The hard part was putting together a coalition, getting 300,000 troops over there and all their equipment and winning. And it gets easier. I mean, setting up a democracy is hard, but it is not as hard as winning a war."
(Fox News Channel's Fred Barnes, 4/10/03)

"We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 5/1/03)

"He looked like an alternatively commander in chief, rock star, movie star, and one of the guys."
(CNN's Lou Dobbs, on Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' speech, 5/1/03)

"Why don't the damn Democrats give the president his day? He won today. He did well today."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)

"What's he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war went too well and it's over? I mean, don't these things sort of lose their--Isn't there a fresh date on some of these debate points?"
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean--4/9/03)

"It is amazing how thorough the victory in Iraq really was in the broadest context..... And the silence, I think, is that it's clear that nobody can do anything about it. There isn't anybody who can stop him. The Democrats can't oppose--cannot oppose him politically."
(Washington Post reporter Jeff Birnbaum-- Fox News Channel, 5/2/03)

"Now that the war in Iraq is all but over, should the people in Hollywood who opposed the president admit they were wrong?"
(Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes, 4/25/03)

"I doubt that the journalists at the New York Times and NPR or at ABC or at CNN are going to ever admit just how wrong their negative pronouncements were over the past four weeks."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/9/03)

"I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' from some of the world's most elite journalists, politicians and Hollywood types.... I just wonder, who's going to be the first elitist to show the character to say: 'Hey, America, guess what? I was wrong'? Maybe the White House will get an apology, first, from the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Now, Ms. Dowd mocked the morality of this war....

"Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N. weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr. Ritter actually told a French radio network that -- quote, 'The United States is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs, defeated.' Sorry, Scott. I think you've been chasing the wrong tail, again.

"Maybe disgraced commentators and politicians alike, like Daschle, Jimmy Carter, Dennis Kucinich, and all those others, will step forward tonight and show the content of their character by simply admitting what we know already: that their wartime predictions were arrogant, they were misguided and they were dead wrong. Maybe, just maybe, these self-anointed critics will learn from their mistakes. But I doubt it. After all, we don't call them 'elitists' for nothing."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/10/03)

"Over the next couple of weeks when we find the chemical weapons this guy was amassing, the fact that this war was attacked by the left and so the right was so vindicated, I think, really means that the left is going to have to hang its head for three or four more years."
(Fox News Channel's Dick Morris, 4/9/03)

"This has been a tough war for commentators on the American left. To hope for defeat meant cheering for Saddam Hussein. To hope for victory meant cheering for President Bush. The toppling of Mr. Hussein, or at least a statue of him, has made their arguments even harder to defend. Liberal writers for ideologically driven magazines like The Nation and for less overtly political ones like The New Yorker did not predict a defeat, but the terrible consequences many warned of have not happened. Now liberal commentators must address the victory at hand and confront an ascendant conservative juggernaut that asserts United States might can set the world right."
(New York Times reporter David Carr, 4/16/03)

"Well, the hot story of the week is victory.... The Tommy Franks-Don Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths.... There is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated so far.... The final word on this is, hooray."
(Fox News Channel's Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03)

"Some journalists, in my judgment, just can't stand success, especially a few liberal columnists and newspapers and a few Arab reporters."
(CNN's Lou Dobbs, 4/14/03)

"This will be no war -- there will be a fairly brief and ruthless military intervention.... The president will give an order. will be rapid, accurate and dazzling.... It will be greeted by the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring it on."
(Christopher Hitchens, in a 1/28/03 debate-- cited in the Observer, 3/30/03)

"I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to take that wager?"
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1/29/03)

"It won't take weeks. You know that, professor. Our military machine will crush Iraq in a matter of days and there's no question that it will."
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03)

"There's no way. There's absolutely no way. They may bomb for a matter of weeks, try to soften them up as they did in Afghanistan. But once the United States and Britain unleash, it's maybe hours. They're going to fold like that."
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03)

"He actually thought that he could stop us and win the debate worldwide. But he didn't--he didn't bargain on a two- or three week war. I actually thought it would be less than two weeks."
(NBC reporter Fred Francis, Chris Matthews Show, 4/13/03)

"Speaking to the U.N. Security Council last week, Secretary of State Colin Powell made so strong a case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is in material breach of U.N. resolutions that only the duped, the dumb and the desperate could ignore it."
(Cal Thomas, syndicated column, 2/12/03)

"Saddam could decide to take Baghdad with him. One Arab intelligence officer interviewed by Newsweek spoke of 'the green mushroom' over Baghdad--the modern-day caliph bidding a grotesque bio-chem farewell to the land of the living alongside thousands of his subjects as well as his enemies. Saddam wants to be remembered. He has the means and the demonic imagination. It is up to U.S. armed forces to stop him before he can achieve notoriety for all time."
(Newsweek, 3/17/03)

"Chris, more than anything else, real vindication for the administration. One, credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction. Two, you know what? There were a lot of terrorists here, really bad guys. I saw them."
(MSNBC reporter Bob Arnot, 4/9/03)

"Even in the flush of triumph, doubts will be raised. Where are the supplies of germs and poison gas and plans for nukes to justify pre-emption? (Freed scientists will lead us to caches no inspectors could find.) What about remaining danger from Baathist torturers and war criminals forming pockets of resistance and plotting vengeance? (Their death wish is our command.)"
(New York Times' William Safire, 4/10/03)
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:05 AM
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1. You should email these remarks to the idiots who made them.
And keep re-posting it every few months. For a laugh.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:09 AM
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2. I had EXACTLY the same thought!
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 02:10 AM by NanceGreggs
But I'd send the same email to them EVERY WEEK!

Of course, if confronted with these quotes now, they would all say, to a man, that they'd been taken 'out of context'!

:rofl: Thanks for a GREAT post! K'd & R'd!!!!
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:19 AM
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3. Impressive Collection...
kicked and recommended...

The depth of ignorance is astounding...the sheer meaness is frightening
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:25 AM
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4. What a priceless collection. Save this forever. Show it around.
What a bunch of cheer leaders for death these idiots are.

They should all be charged and convicted of felonious lying and sent to the former "Jonestown" for
re-education.

They are the worst of the worst.

Nasty, nasty little men.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 04:47 AM
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5. Great compilation....K&R.
There's a lot of Tweety quotes in there. He was (and to some extent, still is) positively giddy about bush's manliness and bravado during the invasion of Iraq. He's still carrying water for bush, some people never learn!

Thanks for this compilation, it's satisfying to see all of those who've made complete fools of themselves fawning over the idiot in chief.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 04:52 AM
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6. If the situation wasn't so grave I
would truly laugh at these. What a complete bunch of morons.
I was one of those leftists who said it would be worse than Vietnam.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 05:08 AM
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7. Kicked for those just rising...........
everyone needs to see this.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 05:17 AM
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8. They're all precious, but this one in particlar.......
makes my hair stand on end.

"Well, the hot story of the week is victory.... The Tommy Franks-Don Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths.... There is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated so far.... The final word on this is, hooray."
(Fox News Channel's Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03)

2,300 plus American deaths later the battle continues to rage and civil war is a reality in Iraq. Now, Morton Kondracke, WHO has been humiliated? And the final word has yet to be uttered but "senseless", "failure" or "moronic" seem a far better choice than, "hooray". :eyes:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 08:13 AM
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9. "The final word is 'hooray'"
That was my favorite, too
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:02 PM
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11. And I'll bet ole Mort Kondracke
Was pissing his pants with glee to report the glorious victory achieved by Operation Swarmer.

Some folks just never learn.
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Applan Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:48 PM
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10. "Part Spider-Man, part Tom Cruise, part Ronald Reagan"
"The war winds down, politics heats up.... Picture perfect. Part Spider-Man, part Tom Cruise, part Ronald Reagan. The president seizes the moment on an aircraft carrier in the Pacific."
(PBS's Gwen Ifill, 5/2/03, on George W. Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech)

Yep, that's our idiot president alright.

I'd just love to see a compilation of these on video on Kieth Olberman's show. That would be quite something.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:06 PM
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12. Damn right
Throw it in their face. They're a bunch of morons that do nothing but go along with the safe conventional wisdom groupthink of the moment. They need to start apologizing. I think one reason the media has been so slow to turn against Bush and show the reality of this war's failure is that they have to admit that they themselves were wrong and failed to do their job of challenging authority figures.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:09 PM
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13. Oh! Thank you for posting this!
I love it when somebody posts stuff like this that shows the lies of the media whores for all to see.

Lies and propaganda.

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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:18 PM
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14. Chris Matthews REALLY sucks.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:12 AM
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15. damn fine work
thanks for posting it

:applause::grr::bounce::grr::applause:
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:06 AM
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16. from another post:

Remember the bold promises?

“Iraq has oil,” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Fortune magazine in 2002, discussing the potential cost of an Iraq invasion and how it would be met. “They have financial resources.”

Paul Wolfowitz, formerly Rumsfeld’s deputy, was bolder: “The oil revenues of that country could bring in between $50 (billion) and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years,” he told Congress as the war began. “We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction.” For his economic acumen, Wolfowitz was rewarded with the presidency of the World Bank.
--------------------------------------------------


God help us.
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