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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:32 PM
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Anyone listen to Democracy Now today?

Fmr. GOP Strategist Kevin Phillips

Amazing and frightening interview


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And then we go -- more impressionist paintings on the wall here -- we go to reports from the Middle East. This came in several Israeli newspapers and others, that Bush at one point commented, although the White House denies it, that he said God told him to invade Afghanistan, God told him to invade Iraq. And then we get 2004, and when he was campaigning in several places, again he played the religious card. And the Lancaster New Era in Pennsylvania, the Old Order Amish country, reported that Bush talked to a group of Amish, the Plain People, and he said that he trusted that God spoke through him, and if that weren't true he wouldn't be able to do his job. Now, they reported this conversation, but their reporter had not been there, so he couldn’t substantiate it.

But this thread -- and I come back to my impressionism -- from a whole lot of people, many of them Republicans and people acquainted with the Republican Party -- this has been in there -- it's this sense that he is the prophet and he's telling us what God wants. And this, to me, is an enormously important backdrop to this mess in what is, after all, the Bible lands for Christians, the Middle East.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/21/1418243
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:35 PM
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1. I did see it
While Bush* might have half of the Republicans thinking he a goddamn prophet - I don't think that he thinks he is. I think he knows that he is a conniving idiot.


I liked this quote:

"He's got a certain smart sort of fraternity boy, towel-snapping, would make a good second vice president of the First National Bank of Amarillo, but, you know, nothing particularly for heavy lifting."
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:43 PM
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3. Yeah, he delivered that line well
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:37 PM
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2. first thing i do every morning
:) watch Amy she is my favorite!
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:43 PM
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4. one big disagreement I have with kevin phillips.
he said he doesnt think impeachment would be constructive, that it is all about parties getting back at each other and playing politics.

he is dead wrong.
-nixons impeachment was about having the president not being above the law.
-clintons impeachment was about republicans getting back for nixon.
-bushs impeachment would once again be about the law and criminal behavior by the president and his administration.



bush is a fucking crook. he has commited war crimes, crimes against humanity, crimes against our constitution (that he swore to obey and uphold) and monetary crimes our grandchildren will still be paying for.

Impeach, Try, Imprison. Justice and Liberty for ALL.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:49 PM
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5. He might be right that
if Bush were impeached that the Republicans would be obsessed with "evening" the score. At whatever cost.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:58 PM
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7. I think his statement made some sense
Although I'd love to see his legacy destroyed by an impeachment, I fear every presidency will be threatened with impeachment from now on just because it's the most intense thing we can think of do to.

Personally, I'd like to try him as a war criminal.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:50 PM
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6. This sort of goes with what you are saying here....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/067003486X/sr=8-1/qid=1142990415/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5061847-1492028?%5Fencoding=UTF8



From America’s premier political analyst, an explosive examination of the axis of religion, politics, and borrowed money that threatens to destroy the nation

In his two most recent New York Times bestselling books, American Dynasty and Wealth and Democracy, Kevin Phillips established himself as a powerful critic of the political and economic forces that are ruling—and imperiling—the United States. Now, Phillips takes an uncompromising view of the political coalition, led by radical religion, that is driving America to the brink of disaster.

From Ancient Rome to the British Empire, Phillips demonstrates that every world-dominating power has been brought down by a related set of causes: a lethal combination of global over- reach, militant religion, resource problems, and ballooning debt. It is this same axis of ills that has come to define America’s political and economic identity in the past decade. Military miscalculations in the Middle East, the surge of fundamentalist religion, the staggering national debt, the costs of U.S. oil dependence—together these factors are undermining our nation’s security, solvency, and standing in the world. If left unchecked, the same forces will bring a debt- bloated, preachy, energy-starved America to its knees. With an eye on the past and a searing vision of the future, Phillips has written a book that no American can afford to ignore.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:34 PM
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8. He's an interesting author.
I'm as much of a fighter against the Religious Reich as anyone, and I agree with him about the huge impact that bringing them into the party has had. Still pondering the rest of what he says.
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