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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:01 AM
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"You can only browbeat people so long"
That is true.
How much longer?
How much longer before we see change?
Will the Dems be able to overcome Repub redistricting/ gerrymandering, in this year's elections?

I get a nagging sense that, with such few "open" seats, this year will be very difficult for the Dems to take back the House or Senate.
I get the nagging sense that if they don't then the "librul media" will downplay the redistricting advantage, the Repubs have set in motion, and beat the drum for the "Dems are weak" mantra.

Just a sickening hunch.
Am I being too pessimistic?

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Press Conference Confessions
By Matthew Rothschild
March 22, 2006

OK, Bush finally fessed up: U.S. troops are going to be in Iraq after he’s out of the Oval Office, a day that can’t come soon enough.

At his press conference on Tuesday, Bush let slip that it’s going to be up to “future Presidents” to decide when all the troops can come home.

MORE>>> http://progressive.org/mag_wx032206

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:11 AM
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1. Open Seats - House of Representatives, Campaign 2006
The are open seats in 19 states: Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vermont and Wisconsin.

Chart of all open seats, by State and by Party, w/current candidates here:


http://uspolitics.about.com/library/bl_house_race_06.htm


Site also has same info on Senate, Gubernatorial races.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:15 AM
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2. I think it's pretty naive to believe leaving Iraq means
ALL the troops will be home at a certain point in time.

History teaches us that never happens.

Bosnia, Korea, Germany, Japan, etc.

Once our boot print hits the ground. we always stay around in some form or fashion.

At least bush was honest about it. He probably felt funny telling the truth for once.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:17 AM
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3. What about Vietnam?
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:19 AM
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5. Vietnam???
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 09:23 AM by Poppyseedman
The victor sets the terms.

We lost.

If you think for a moment Iraq will be another Vietnam type defeat. I think you seriously underestimate this administration.

The North Vietnamese had a government backing it and the peoples supporting it. There is a big difference between what is happening in Iraq and what happened in Vietnam. The press are pretty much morons not to understand that.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:23 AM
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6. Oh I see...
...I forgot...we're "winning" in Iraq.
:sarcasm:
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:52 AM
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8. Amazing how you put the word "winning" into my post.
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 10:25 AM by Poppyseedman
One word I never said.

What I said Iraq was a different type of war than Nam was. Which by almost every type of measure you want to use, it is.

Did we "win" in Bosnia?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:18 AM
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4. Voting participation is always shitty!
The people that don't vote are our people. We need to get those people registered and to the polls to vote! If each one of US commits to get ten of THEM to the polls on election day we will win going away!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:29 AM
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7. it took the Romans four years to dump Caligula and he was worse than bush
actually Nero reminds me of bushie, since he played a guitar while New Orleans flooded.
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